05-05-2019, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by EdmundJohnstone
Hi ketzer,
Thanks for the reply.
I mostly agree with you except the part of life being an illusion, it's not like I came here I procreate have a child and he or she is an illusion, or someone blowing up the Planet with nukes, I referred to death as an illusion because it might be so, if life doesen't stop, only if there is for sure a non-material/non-physical medium out there, and consciousness does not depend just on the brain. Can we be sure of that?
I think I didn't made myself understood sorry for that. What I meant was: Will grandma really be grandma and not grandma just created by me in my own reality? I know this is a bit puzzling as now I perceive grandma by my own consciousness but I mean grandma being grandma with her free will not an imaginary one created just by my mind, because my current mind is perceiving grandma in a way, but she is alive and has her free will of her own. She is not created just by me, as being my puppet or as a creation in a dream.
If the Universe is just physical/material and life depends just on the brain as it would be the creator of consciousness, we might end up in void, "like before being born" I guess, despite whatever we believe and think, what do you say?
Will grandma after death really be herself as she is now and recognize me? Not just my entire creation as a puppet in my reality?
Yes she is perceived by me in a way so I create my reality but we coexist, our realities intersect, does this continue after death or it's just our own reality created just by us? It's not like I created her now as a puppet, I interpret her actions at the moment
Does this coexistence of realities survive death? How can we meet other people after death? Just thinking of them? Will we have memories of them as well?
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I don’t use the word illusion to imply that life is not real, only that it is more than what it appears to be. Our physical experience of life (including spacetime and matter) emerges within our own consciousness as we interpret/render information from a non-physical medium (the unified quantum field..which is not a “physical” field). The physical universe does not exist as something “physical” until it is “observed”, up until then it only exists as a mathematical potentiality, a probability distribution of what might be. It is you who decides which of the infinite potentialities of experiences contained in the information of the field that you will experience as your present moment reality. Life is a process of reading that information, extracting what you wish, and creating a virtual reality, something like an advanced online video game. The characters (egos) live and die in the simulation, but the players (souls) go on to become new characters or play other games. Although I suppose we can’t be “sure” of that or anything else either. Uncertainty is a principal build into the very foundations of the game.
I believe that our coexistence is a universal reality that is eternally present, it is only a question of whether or not our awareness is expanded enough to realize this, or contracted to focus on the experience at hand (life as a human individual in this case). Everything that exists in our experience arises within our consciousness, but we are also focal points of individualized awareness in a greater universal consciousness from which we are never truly separated. All is one. You and grandma are never truly separated, you are currently limiting what you are aware of, and focusing your consciousness to have the direct and personal experience of life as an individual in this shared co-created reality. When you are finished with this experience, you can expand your awareness to realize you are much more. Whether you and grandma interact as grandma and grandchild beyond the limitations of this life experience, or in some other way, is up to the both of you. Regardless, you, grandma, and me, and everything else are all eternally united in a larger unlimited universal consciousness that encompasses everything that is, was, or ever will be. What of this we hold in our awareness at any given moment (as a present reality or as a memory) is up to us.
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