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Old 25-11-2017, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Honza
So how does that equate with the New Age message of self love and self empowerment? Or with the Hindu and Buddhist message of self realisation?
It doesn't equate them. We are commanded to love God and our neighbors, not ourselves. We must depend on God, not on ourselves, for power. We can experience self realization only through a proper relationship with and submission to God.

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Originally Posted by sky123
If you don't love yourself how can you love others ?
All of us naturally love ourselves. Our natural tendency is to put that love first when other loves need to have priority.

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Originally Posted by Ab Origine
Hmm - of course it does - the bible authority wants you submissive, down on your knees, dominated CONTROLLED !! But look, as I keep telling you (all) the bible is not even the truth of Christ and HE said something completely different here -
Christ's message was a call to complete submission.

And calling the crowd to him with his disciples, he said to them, “If anyone would come after me, let him deny himself and take up his cross and follow me. For whoever would save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for my sake and the gospel's will save it. For what does it profit a man to gain the whole world and forfeit his soul? For what can a man give in return for his soul? For whoever is ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of him will the Son of Man also be ashamed when he comes in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.”
Mark 8:34-38 ESV
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