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Old 19-01-2016, 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Yaakov001
"I came not to bring peace but the sword". Jesus of Nazareth, commonly mistaken for the Messiah.

From the Gospel of Thomas:

16. Jesus said, "Perhaps people think that I have come to cast peace upon the world. They do not know that I have come to cast conflicts upon the earth: fire, sword, war. For there will be five in a house: there'll be three against two and two against three, father against son and son against father, and they will stand alone."

Luke 12:49-59 (KJV)

49 I am come to send fire on the earth; and what will I, if it be already kindled? 50 But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! 51 Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division: 52 For from henceforth there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. 53 The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. 54 And he said also to the people, When ye see a cloud rise out of the west, straightway ye say, There cometh a shower; and so it is. 55 And when ye see the south wind blow, ye say, There will be heat; and it cometh to pass. 56 Ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky and of the earth; but how is it that ye do not discern this time? 57 Yea, and why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right? 58 When thou goest with thine adversary to the magistrate, as thou art in the way, give diligence that thou mayest be delivered from him; lest he hale thee to the judge, and the judge deliver thee to the officer, and the officer cast thee into prison. 59 I tell thee, thou shalt not depart thence, till thou hast paid the very last mite.



In both verse 16 and in Luke, Jesus is talking about the new and higher "truth" that he is bringing to world. A new covenant and baptism in the power of the Holy Spirit. In comparing the father against the son, he is saying that one must move on from the old ancestral jewish ways of the law. Though the path may be difficult, one must be resolute (solitary if need be) in the new way.

It is not the truth that the Christian church talks about.
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