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Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker
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For those who have been so blessed to experience Oneness in deep meditation ... the question is that having merged our in-form consciousness with Oneness awareness in the boundless sea of bliss and absoluteness, why are we dissolved and yet distinct?
To be more specific, among other possible paths provided by the Universe, during in-form awakening when we as consciousness or energy move up along the spine to the crown and then dissolve in the flow to enter space into the Oneness field, we are one with Oneness and yet in as ordained, distinct. Of course, reverse Oneness experience also happens when the Universe Itself descends into form ... there being no here and there or coming or going in actuality. So we then know that energetically or let us say vibrationally, all is One. Yet the aspect of duality or separateness of our consciousness remains.
Theory being meaningless from the practical standpoint ... all the stuff about self & non-self, being and not being, observing vs witnessing and so on ... what we are saying is that in actual lived experience in the state of being flowing in the now continuum employing intuition rather than analysis (ego rested or disassociated) with a detached orientation of acceptance, fearlessness and desirelessness, there is a continuation of renewal of bliss with us as a receptor ... meaning that there is a separate person ... a receiver who feels blissful in the Oneness connectedness.
Connectedness is good but it is still separateness. A connected to B but not B. A is separate and B is separate.
The understanding by experiencing Oneness imparts the definitive wisdom of all being One no doubt but the state of so being restricted to the duration of the deep trance meditation when we are dissolved in the flow but even there as Oneness but not The Oneness in permanence.
So we emerge from the unified field back to the dualistic field wiser but not enabled.
I’ll be happy to get views from all who have so experienced Oneness and then plonked back into duality. How do we handle this oscillation?
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In the general experiential and perceptual concept(s) of existence, this is perhaps the most difficult concept for my limited brain to actualise and conceptualise.
In my attempts to do so, I have delved into Vishistadvaita or Achintya Bheda-Abheda Tattwa, or simply, qualified monism or qualified (quantifiable) non-duality...in which, the observer merges with Oneness, yet is still aware of the "Oneness" as distinct from the observer (even though it also includes it somehow).
I cannot think of any simple analogy that does this justice...even the "water drop vs ocean" doesn't do it, because the drop loses its "drop-ness" as soon as it merges with the ocean...but in the case of total Laya..in the case of full absorption into Brahman, Prakriti is still distinct from Purusha, even though, in reality, there IS no distinction...and yet there is. One may not be aware of that distinction during the experience, because the bliss, the ananda just overrides it...but as soon as perception comes back into play, as soon as we get our brain back to "think with" or even our heart back to "feel with"...there it is again, even though we know the separation is due to Maya (Indra's Net)...but it also isn't.
As you also rightly stated, this is how "God" (as we can only comprehend how a "God" can exist), is able to assume a human form...or a "Light Body" form...or anything He/She/It so desires, as to resonate with the vibration of individual consciousness (as distinct from itself as being the Universal Consciousness) so as to appear as a "familiar concept" to the mind on all three levels (the Gunas) and manage to transcend itself THROUGH itself.
In this way, there is no distinction between Jivatman and Paramatman even though there IS and no distinction between Brahman and Parabrahman even though there IS...and no distinction between Mahadeva (Maheshwara) and Sadashiva or Lingam, even though there IS...it is the concept itself which needs to be transcended through the actual concept...yet, even after transcendence...even after realisation, the concept still remains as both a concept, yet also that which is "non conceptual"...pretty weird that.
Even after Ramana Maharishi attained to Samadhi...even Nirvikalpa Samadhi, in which all concepts, all namam and roopam (names and forms) are lost to Satchitananda (existence-consciousness-bliss), Mt. Arunachala was still there...it never went anywhere, not did Ramana Maharishi lose his fondness for it as an aspect of Lord Shiva's Grace, which led him to experience the Samadhi in the first place...however, Arunachala would still be Arunachala, but not the same Arunachala, because the perception of it would have shifted:
"First there is a mountain, then there is no mountain, then there is".
https://tricycle.org/magazine/first-...e-no-mountain/
This also depends on where consciousness resides in the body (or if it resides there at all) for it can be in one (or more) of each of the five sheaths, the pancha koshas simultaneously or independently...or the awareness may not even rest there at all..as evidenced by the second Shloka of Atma Shatakham written by Adi Shankaracharya:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.spe...hatakam/m-lite
When all is said and done, this is something that cannot really be spoken about, even though many try to do so...and get nowhere..or get plopped back into their thinking/reasoning mind with a "what the hell just happened to ME?" and then spend many lifetimes trying to figure it out...or chase that experience again, just for confirmation...or wonder if there is "more to it" instead of just accepting it as it IS...instead of just
allowing it to happen through Grace...or on and of "its own accord" or whatever that case may be where there is no ego that is aware of where it was for the past *insert a time that doesn't exist here*.