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Old 12-10-2017, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Moondance
Hello Gem

Firstly for the cohesion of what follows let me restate that there’s a distinction to be made between the assertion that nothing is required for Oneness to be the case - and the realisation of Oneness. They are often conflated but they are not the same. Oneness is the case, realisation or not. For realisation to be the case, realisation is required.

The issue of how realisation comes about is often contentious and controversial - but it needn’t be.

Probably because there is no 'how' to realise. I guess there is a 'way' to see what 'is the case' - but 'the way' and 'how to' are not the same thing.

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What seems to be reported in most cases of this shift is that an opening occurs in which the habitual dualistic projections of the mind are momentarily dissolved or bypassed. Conditions that take us to the edge of our habituated outlook such as meditation, inquiry, existential crisis, trauma etc. often seem to be the correlate in the occurrence of this opening. Does purification play any part in this? I doubt it, but I don’t know.

It's probably not the case that spiritual acrobatics we see sold in spiritualism leads to self realisation. The best way forward is to stop seeking something which is not 'here' and start noticing what is.

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Beyond this opening/shift, the habitual mind states will continue to arise (the left hemisphere is basically a duality projecting machine.) It doesn’t matter who you are - the Buddha, Ramana, Eckhart Tolle, these dualistic projections will still occur.



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But now they are not so readily bought into - they are seen to be a movement of Source (so to speak.) I suppose that this could be thought of as an ongoing re-alignment as the biology/psychology of the organism is adjusting to the new orientation.

Yes, I have often heard this called 'alignment', maybe 'integration'.

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Does any of this imply a separate instigator/doer/adjuster? Think of a plant receiving energy from the sun. It orients its leaves in order to receive maximum photons from the sun’s rays. It converts the photons into sugars in order for the plant to thrive. Nowhere in this is a separate entity. It's just a moment by moment dance involving the whole gestalt.

OK... teehee.

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This opening/shift/realignment could be said to be like the orienting of the leaves in order to let in the light. It is simply a movement of a 'global event’ entailing no separate parts.

Personally, I couldn't say it any better - but what I can say is we sometimes try to make it into something we know and understand, when to me at least, it's more like the outpouring of universal love (and how that rises within and throughout us).
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