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Old 10-01-2018, 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Gem
Yes there is a delusion of self involved in the agitations we call personal reactions, and we can notice these reactivities (which we call 'the enemy') and see there is no self inherent to them. In that awareness, the watcher is unaffected by such turmoils in the mind, and hence such turmoils cease.

Upon the surface level ceasing and becoming quiet, deeper aspects start to arise, and these are noticed in the same objective sense, and through such a process we arrive at the roots and resolve life long issues, but during that process we are challenged as the violence of such arising storms can exceed our limited ability for mindful equanimity, so there is a strengthening aspect which enables us endure with poise and balance yet greater extremes of the experience.



There is a difference between illusion and delusion, so that which arises is illusory in nature, but it is the reality of the lived experience. The awareness of it as arising in the absence of having substance, or in other words, self, is freedom from delusion, or noticing its illusory quality. However, it must arise, so attempts to stop it, resist it, avoid it are like being present for this enemy to fight.



I don't see that prediction actualising at all.

You say we can notice these reactivities .. whom or what is noticing? Something that can obviously notice something and that can distinguish what is illusional and what is delusional .

We can call what we are a delusional self in such instances but there is still a self reflection had of what you are in order to make such statements .

It's really this point of self discernment / examination / noticing that makes sense of the reality that presents itself that interests me .

We can call what that is consciousness or something along similar lines, it matters not but the point of self reflection contains a profile of sorts and such a profile is reflecting upon our understandings of what everything is, means, or stands for .

Getting back to the original O.P there really would be no question of other's or what enemies constitute for there would be no preferences, for there would be no other's or enemies that one would notice .

My thoughts upon your thoughts that come about through self reflection is actual ..

Explain to me your process of evaluation regarding what you understand my post containing and what you have evaluated and what you have said in reply without a process that involves a reflection of what you believe yourself to be .

If you believe no-one is present for example then you have evaluated that by what other means?


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