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Old 17-04-2018, 02:40 PM
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actually Jesus was teachings us what we should pray for. in other words, he was giving us a model prayer. the Lord's prayer is to be taken literally. at Matt 6:9-13 Jesus said....(”In this manner, therefore, pray: Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name”). When Jesus said that (“the Kingdom of God is within you”) , he didn't mean that Heaven was within a human. Because Heaven is an actual place. He meant that one has to believe in their Heart that his Father's Kingdom is very real. True!... “our Father” is always with his Children. and we should hold him dear to our hearts. But Heaven, he made for him, NOT something to be with us ,(Ps.115:16 The heaven, even the heavens, are the Lord’s; But the earth He has given to the children of men).

And when Jesus said...”Hallowed be Your name”, he was referring to HIS FATHER. You said ... “A "name" is a knowing, and such a knowing is very hallowed”. A “name is what's given to a person, place or thing ,in order to personally identify that subject. “HALLOW”, means to make Holy or Honor. Jesus was saying may his FATHER'S NAME, be made Holy and to be Honored. Though MANY refuse to even acknowledge either he HAS a Father ,or that his Father has a name. (verse 10 “Your kingdom come. Your will be done On earth as it is in heaven”).

Again Jesus was speaking literally, this is what we should pray for. Before sin came into this world, Earth was to be like Heaven. Meaning NO sin, hatred, violence, etc. soon this world will be the way Jehovah God originally planed, filled With love and peace ,(Psa. 37:9-11 For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth. For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be. But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace).

Jehovah God doesn't tempt anyone by means of something evil. He didn't send satan to Jesus. Satan knew if Jesus died a righteous human, he would soon be destroyed, Which he would have anyway. Satan tried to have Jesus done away with even when he was a child, by a wicked king. Do you really believe he need Jehovah God to use him as a test for Jesus? ‭(1Corinthians‬ ‭10‬:‭13), is showing that Jehovah will not allow any temptation towards his people, in which they couldn't handle. Don't be fooled, trials and temptation is NOT the same.

It's satan who tempts, he's called that ,(Matt. 4:3), and he does it by means of trickery ,(Ephe. 6:11 Put on the whole Armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil). Jehovah doesn't tempt, but he will allow satan for a while to do what he believe he could do for ALL humans. Which is prove to Jehovah God and Jesus, that he could turn ALL against them, thought he couldn't! peace

Jesus brought a new covenant, a higher teaching.

Jesus repeatedly states Heaven isn't some place.

Jesus said, "If your leaders say to you, 'Look, the (Father's) kingdom is in the sky,' then the birds of the sky will precede you. If they say to you, 'It is in the sea,' then the fish will precede you. Rather, the (Father's) kingdom is within you and it is outside you. When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you will understand that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty, and you are the poverty."
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