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Old 22-09-2019, 05:47 PM
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WHY IS IT SO HARD TO DEFINE SPIRITUALITY?

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Originally Posted by BigJohn
Why is it difficult to define Spirituality?
You would think there would be much commonality between belief systems
but it appears there is is a lot of polarization. How can this be?


Good point.

Hello BigJohn,

Consider this answer to your excellent question, "Why is it so hard to define Spirituality?" as an analogy expressed this way, "The map of our definitions is not the territory of Reality".

....and here is the rub: The map can never be the territory, Itself, regardless how detailed or comprehensive the commonality or disparity there may be between belief systems.

Why?

As indicated in the 1st reference, "....because these "aspects", however named, are REALLY the Whole system acting AS IF IT WERE the "part" we, myopically and erroneously call it, to the EXCLUSION of the Whole, without which the "part" is not even ABLE to be manifested for our "inspection" and "description" or our "discussion" of it !"

....not even if the "part" of the Whole erroneously self-described as Man, says to himself, "that (whatever it is) is "its" name". Really?

Not Really! Because we have taught ourselves to accept the Undifferentiated Unnameable Reality as being thus differentiated, thus defined, and thus named...as if the maps CAN ACTUALLY BE the territory.

The MAP'S designations are MADE UP in order for us to pretend that there IS a "before" and an "after", "here" and "there", a "going away from...." and a "return to..." in order to justify support for a misinterpretation, all-too-prevalent in ALL our beliefs and language; the erroneous bifurcation of the observer from the observed in a Unitary Reality.

As excerpted from the 2nd reference:

"Physiological reality, take me literally... is a mirror, it is just a more complex mirror, a holographic mirror... a multi-dimensional mirror, so that you don't always recognize all the reflections as you, but believe me... they are... .all the reflections are you, and I mean literally every object, person, place and thing, every situation... every circumstance, every moment of time and space is you being reflected back to yourself, from the particular point of view you chose to express at that particular moment. The idea therefore, is to understand, that what you will always discover, will simply be All That Is expressing itself through the unique portion of All That Is you were created to be. Remember the Second Law: "The One is All, the All are One". Every component of the All That Is, all of you... all of us, every individuated being... every individuated concept, is the whole expressing itself as a part. Important point... I'll rewind that and repeat it, because we understand that you have been trained to think segregationally, sometimes individuals on your planet may miss the point, all of you are, yes... a part of the whole, but as a part of the whole, you are the Whole expressing Itself as "a part of the whole". Big difference than just thinking of yourself as a part of the whole without the other side. You have to understand yourself holographically, it is this and that... not this or that. So, you are the part... you are the whole, you are both one and the same, but expressing the whole as a part."

Ironically, we remain absolutely free to continue "part-itioning" each other's "definitions of Spirituality " even while each of us actually IS the Whole "territory" and even to call ourselves and our way of thinking as (fill in the "adherent's" blank) all the WHILE trying to MAP it, and even living it, as if the Whole were parts so named! Really?

Really!

How? Because the Whole is All That Is, whether defined, mapped, named.....or not!

Hope this, and the references below, helps....

Reference: http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...1&postcount=77

Reference: http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...1&postcount=75
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Last edited by guthrio : 23-09-2019 at 12:14 AM. Reason: clarify inputs
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