ill step in and agree upon one point made here; those posts that go on forever with hundreds of words get ignored by me usually (unless im already into the discussion). to me a those kinds of posts are not part of a discussion as much as they are an essay. i do not visit forums for essays, i have my own favorite sights for such things. but, i do not get irritated or offended or anything else either way. in fact, i dont really know why im taking the time to post here, so , bye!!;)