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Old 11-01-2020, 09:58 AM
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India had major changes over the centuries and millennia, as did Greece, Egypt, Rome. See influences and impact of Upanishad period, Islamic conquests, Christianity and colonialism, the modern age. The people of pre-Upanishad period ate cows and worshipped Agni, not Krishna for example. India has been in flux like any other civilization. The ancient Indus civilization had cities that are no longer inhabited, same with some old places in Egypt and Iraq.

India has had minor changes but not in a major way. The civilization still exists with milleniums old traditions like Kumbha Mela and Shiva worship still standing unlike the Egyptian, Assyrian and others.

Agni is worshipped in Vedic chants even now in yajnas.


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Originally Posted by Altair
That's his belief. I don't see anything to suggest ''everything has come'' from India. This is like saying every peoples on the planet came from the biblical tribes of Israel.

Voltaire comes from a period in Europe where it was a common stereotype among philosophers to see Europe as a place of savagery pre-Enlightenment.

Many philosophers like Schopenhauer, Hegel, Nietzche, Durant, Emerson, Thoreau, Alfred North Whitehead, Aldous Huxley in recent times have also echoed similar views.


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Originally Posted by Altair
Ancient Rome was also very rich, but... only for the upper class.
India's (current) poverty isn't the fault of ''the West''.If it would be than why participate in global trade and accept medicine?

India has had participated in global trade in ancient times as well, and roman coins and stuff were found in ancient trading centres in India. Similarly with Indian coins and trade articles being found in faraway countries.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-R...rade_relations

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_maritime_history

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indus-...amia_relations


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Originally Posted by Altair
If it would be than why participate in global trade and accept medicine? Maybe it has and had more to do with it being a class-based society that tells its poor that they are poor due to past life karma. India doesn't have to participate in global trade, science and medicine, and develop its economy, it's a choice. It seems it wants to though, shed the old and embrace the new.

India has its own medical systems like Ayurveda, Siddha, Unani, Yoga and herbal medicine. Along with it it has embraced novel methods of medicine like allopathy and homeopathy in recent times and contributed to these streams as well. The people thus have access to all forms of medical systems at present.

I have met people who were healed by Ayurveda after exhausting all that allopathy had to offer.

Brad Willis is an American journalist who was inflicted with a severe back injury and cancer which disrupted his flourishing career and allopathic medicine seemed unable to heal him.

He has creditted Ayurveda and yoga for curing his cancer and back problems and is now a certified Ayurveda and Yoga Educator himself. He leads trainings and retreats in the U.S. and internationally, plus lectures and provides keynote speeches to medical schools, executive groups, and holistic health practitioners.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Willis_(journalist)
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