Yes, it's far easier in the wilds to get nutrition through hunting than just eating berries and mushrooms. We develop strategies, and have eyes facing forwards. Being vegan in the wild is a death sentence. Makes no difference if you're in a tropical jungle, as existing tribes in the tropics show. Maybe these vegan ''experts'' can have a chat with the tribes, show them what to eat and how to utilize the jungle.
As for civilization, there have been no vegan societies, only poor people who were close to a vegan diet. Debrah brings up the Egyptians, but many Egyptians were poor and enslaved and lived on a lot of bread. This is not a good argument in favour of a diet free of all animal food at all.
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Originally Posted by hallow
If you really think about it, carnivorous animals are more intelligent and more social oriented then most grazing animals. How many people have a pet horse or cow that sits, shakes,and rolls over on command? Not many.
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Elephants are a great exception to that rule. ((big apes eat eggs and insects)).