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Originally Posted by markings
I have a friend whose nephew had an anger problem at school. They diverted him into some hardcore martial arts training. Today, a few years later he is the world champion in his discipline and his family is very proud of him and the person he had become.
That is an example of the effectiveness of a training and practice. Making a real and measurable change in people's life.
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Actually that does not appear to be 'a real change'. People are like this, aren't they?
Basically it is about doing ... there is time and this time may be spent with doing something. If first one did this and then one is doing that then there is change. So whatever one did before one started to meditate one will do something different when meditating. 'doing something different when meditating' may be called 'change', right? And it is measurable, too.
Now what is
real change? The way you are applying the word 'real' seems to express merely your personal preference. There are as many personal preferences as there are people.