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Old 27-06-2017, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Scommstech
Hey, hang on, I never said that love was not involved. I said that knowledge was involved and that can be applied with love. But, many an infant has died due to ignorance, irrespective of the love that has been directed at them.
You could easily say that life exists irrespective of love, as is seen by all the murders and the man made evils of the world. Life still carries on and the undetected murders still walk the streets

True. . .I never stated nor implied that you claimed anything like, "love is not involved," my friend. I had pointed out that your message was clearly placing what you called "knowledge" above love, even without you strictly mentioning the word "love." There is a reason why you didn't emphasize love (or joy or happiness, which are other words that speak of the same benevolent force). You might wish to examine that overemphasis of yours on "knowledge," which was vague and non-specific, for you and I both know that there are many types of knowledge, some helpful and some destructive.

Love itself, however, is actually universally the same, regardless of how many ways it may be interpreted and expressed (that is, Divine Love, which is unconditional).

Also, I wasn't speaking about love that is "directed" at an infant; in using the example of infants, I was speaking first and foremost about the natural impetus for healing that is encoded in the DNA. Notice that I said "in most cases," when I was speaking about infants receiving healing. When I speak of receiving healing, I am not speaking specifically about people sending love or healing, or even about the soul or Higher Self sending healing, I am speaking about the subject (the person in question who seeks healing) being open and receptive to these healing energies, which is an attitude of allowing well-being.

In truth, people heal themselves, in all cases, whether a facilitator, doctor or special treatment is involved. Most people do not get this simple truth, and many erroneously give most of the credit to "healers," when at best all a healer can do is HELP channel the flow of energy, not actually "make" a person better; and at best all a treatment can do is HELP a person find greater alignment with well-being, it cannot "make" a person well.

Infant deaths are actually not very common at all in today's world, in contrast to the vast number of infants that live at least into their child years and those that grow into adults. This is not to say that these deaths are insignificant or unimportant in any way, this is to point out that most incarnating souls intend to live at least into older childhood years, with most souls intending to live longer lifetimes into adulthood. Although infant deaths often involve neglect by adults, the actual root cause of an infant death is NOT because of the actions of anyone other than the incarnating soul, which indeed was born with some karmic momentum. No one is born with a "clean slate" (as some people say) that is free of karma. This is not even possible. Karma is "action," and and every human birth comes about through a series of actions that the soul must make, in collaboration with the souls that are to be its biological parents.

What you and most humans do not realize, my friend, is that there are deeper reasons for such things as infant deaths that most humans are very ignorant of, which go beyond what appears to be the "fault" of others. You will not have any deep understanding of the soul nor of human life upon Planet Earth if you (and I mean not just you personally) quickly point a finger of blame to another or others as the "cause" of someone else's fate. In truth, each incarnating soul is 100%--that is TOTALLY--responsible for its own "fate," meaning the soul consciousness is responsible for the life that it CHOOSES to live, for WE ALL CHOSE to be here, without exception. Infant deaths are no more tragic to the higher consciousness of the soul (what is sometimes called the Oversoul) than an adult death.

Some souls actually INTEND to live very short lifespans for their own karmic growth reasons.

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You could easily say that life exists irrespective of love, as is seen by all the murders and the man made evils of the world. Life still carries on and the undetected murders still walk the streets

Some people can easily say this, for MANY people believe this idea that people often tell themselves (because they feel disillusioned with the world. . .actually with themselves), but me, no, I cannot easily say this nor do I believe it, for I KNOW that life in any form cannot exist without LOVE. Life always exists respective of love, at its core, which is why good ALWAYS comes from that which is experienced as bad. Benevolence ALWAYS exists in some expressions, in some degrees, within each and every being, regardless of their actions. The proof for this is very evident. For example, even in someone as misguided and harmful as A. Hitler, to use an extreme example to show my point, the energy that kept his heart beating was not "evil." In all of his actions, his cells themselves were not "evil." It is scientific fact that there is a NATURAL impetus in the cells to thrive, to live, to exist, to heal. This is natural and in-born in all creatures, and remains true no matter how vile a being may become in his or her actions. The mindset may become villainous, but the physical body itself is never evil. The soul continually feeds the body with its vitality, pouring love-energy, light-energy, into the cells. This was true even for Hitler.

So that belief or suggestion of yours that life can exist irrespective of love is total baloney. There is no proof whatsoever of that idea, no matter how disillusioned a person may become and blame "the world" or blame certain aspects and persons in the world. Life itself is not about human "good" and "evil." Life (which is actually Life Force) itself is fundamentally harmonious, even when there appears to be disharmonious aspects. Life is not about events, life is Life Force (God-Force) that may be expressed in any way that beings choose, within the parameters of their internal programming, that is.

There is a cosmic beauty that includes all events, all circumstances, both "good" and "bad" and whatever other label or concept that may be given. The soul itself does not think in human terms of "This is good" and "This is bad," or "This is unfortunate." The soul IS good, but not in the biased and limited way that humans think of "good." The soul is HOLY, and holiness by its very nature is benevolent.

All events are actually interpretations; what the physical senses show you is not what is REALLY going on. Thus, everything that happens is a type of dream, a type of cosmic play upon (within) the "stage of consciousness" that is the Universal Mind of God.

Now, of course, all of the above is simply a perspective, and would not be intended by me to offer in the form of words, in most cases, for most of my time is spent not in offering spiritual philosophy but in actual hands-on assistance and care to other beings, human and non-human.

You brought up some very good points, and I choose to see them as good, as beneficial, even though I don't agree with almost all that you stated in words, I agree with your loving and helpful intention that I see you offering in your posts that I've read. In no way am I glossing over the pains and injustices of the world, with my lengthy discourse. It is merely an opinion that I see as in close alignment with the Spirit of Truth within me, and thus I state my ideas confidently.

Life must always take love into account to some degree, by its very nature (even when people forget to take love into account), for life is Life Force, and all life exists by virtue of Divine Love. No "good guys" and no "villains" and no life experience of any kind may exist without consciousness/love as the basis. Even that which is seen as evil only exists because a loving, benevolent intelligence created a universe (multiverse) in which duality appears to exist.

If you or anyone has read all this, I congratulate you! Actually, I congratulate you anyway. Peace.
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