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Originally Posted by baro-san
I may be picky ... but I find true compassion very rare, even among the people that think about themselves as being compassionate. I think that true compassion can't fit in a heart the knows hate. Most "compassionate" people I encountered feel hate for those who disagree with their view.
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I can relate to what your sharing here. It came up in conversation in a group. The nature of how you give to others, whether through loving them, being compassionate towards others etc will come from a place of conscious deeper awareness in feeling compassion for your own self, or from a logical awareness in feeling that it is the "right and moral thing to do" I was challenging a view that insisted it doesn't matter what you are within yourself conscious or unconscious, the more you love and give to others, the less the self needs to be concerned about self love. To me I could see that loving intent for the issue at hand will be granted regardless of something else moving around deeper that might not be loving or compassionate, the love moving for that stream is still at play. My argument was more that you as the "complete" essence, if not complete can go deeper into becoming the love yourself or the compassion where it becomes a complete source self realized and there it flows from a more authentic place deeper, rather than only for the stream of love presented for that particular issue at play. I guess it makes no difference how you love, more that if your not going deeper into yourself the more you love and give out, the balance over time if not attended too will eventually reflect back to show you the deficit of self unrealized in the way it gives as a more complete vessel. I think what they trying to say, was that the giving out of love would fill up the self and make the issues deeper null and void. Could this be true, to bring about a natural dissolving of unloved aspects of self? Could well be so..
It reminds me as an empath how I sense naturally the authentic nature of loving presence in action.. I feel others as they are, so the authenticity is felt as real for me or hiding or tarnished by other stuff. It is an off "feel" for me, even as it is doing something "good". As a child being held by a mother and father in fear but directed as love served me for a time, but I always felt everything in them. Being highly sensitive and a strong empath it was all felt by me as the action of itself in everyway. We hear people say, people only love from the space of love they know how to love from within themselves, but then as the receiver you can know more about that love than they know themselves.