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Old 21-01-2012, 11:22 PM
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Serenity, I'm puzzled by your remark that most mediums cannot call on spirits at will (unless they have "special work?" I'm not sure what that might mean). I agree with the OP. I have always been able to connect with whoever I like in spirit simply by focusing on their energy, and I'm not aware of having been given some sort of special dispensation to do so. It's not something I do willy-nilly and I am always careful to follow my guidance, but I find the idea of not having that ability as peculiar as the idea of owning a telephone one can answer but not make calls with.

You speak of limitations a lot. Mediums can't do this, or there are bans on that. This does not feel comfortable to me. I feel one of the most important lessons spirit always tries to teach me is that, in the infinity of existence, limitations do not exist unless we create them for ourselves.


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Isn't it said that communication between discarnates and incarnates is via telepathy anyway? And what characterises communication with spirit individuals compared with "physical consciousness to physical consciousness" (pc-pc) communication?
It's probably understandable that pc-pc communication is more challenging - we're not equipped for it and why would we be?


Yes, I agree that both are forms of telepathy. Again, I can only speak from my own experience here, but I find marked differences between telepathic communication with a spirit or human consciousness. There is far more "resistance" when trying to establish a connection between physical minds. Generally it takes directed effort and concentration from both parties, takes time and effort to establish a connection properly, and it is a challenge trying to get through coherent information. When a spirit communicates with another spirit they do so as easily and naturally as two humans would speak aloud to one another with words. I suppose when a human is communicating with a spirit there are challenges on the side of the human receiving but what is coming from the spirit is an easy flow of communication. Therefore, when a human speaks to the spirit aspect of a person, they are communicating with that aspect of them which lacks any resistance. It "feels" like spirit communication, not human communication.


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Agreed but can we be certain they are what's being accessed in other states?
I wonder about what that achieves? Are matters markedly different from one's conscious perception of one's self? Does one's 'higher self' constantly make allowance for the shortcomings of it's 'total self'?

I don't think we can be certain about anything! Anything spiritual is practically impossible to gather any definitive physical proof about. I'm not sure what you mean about making allowance for shortcomings. I see HS as being the complete aspect of us which understands our life purpose, what we are doing and why, has access to our spiritual memories, and acts as a link between the physical consciousness and spirit - but that does not make our physical consciousness less or incomplete, just part of something larger. And that being the case, the HS can be a useful source of guidance. Personally, it is not my preferred one as I find the experience of talking to myself a little bizarre, but I know many people find it helpful. This is a good description which I would agree with, I think.

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And yet there appears to be few/no verifiable details....
I prefer to reach conclusions only when I have adequate data and I'm trying to avoid any premature conclusion that the situation is anything other than fanciful.
I'd love to learn that there might be a reliable way to reach individuals trapped in the so-called persistent vegetative state.

As I said, it would make sense to me that this is possible based on my own experiences and that of others I have spoken to. I'd also be interested in discovering more about it. It is a difficult subject to imagine finding data about, and while I'm happy to tell you what I have found, unfortunately I don't have much in the way of quantifiable information to offer about this idea as it's not an area I have explored very much myself.
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