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Old 25-10-2019, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JustBe
I’m emphasising one key point that you shared daz. That one will go through a process that you have said will be. In my opinion that is a limited idea in how people heal.

My mind is not controlling my being,deciding how things will be. If I’m directly present with everything, there is no karma or ideas about what just is there. As an example ..daz, how do you feel when the man bashes the wife over the head? Do you watch your reactions close and as deep in your being without your mind distracting itself? Do you look beyond these stories your sharing here about others in there process?

That’s how I live and dig deeper into everything in me that your trying to find reason for in karma and scenarious. As I see your caught up in judgement level of karma.

In holding an external idea that all those wrongdoings of others require all those processors your deciding will be, you can never see beyond that point in your mind. Without any label assigned to suffering and it’s OWN process, by being present in your being without thoughts that -this is how my mind sees it, you drop deeper in you and allow others suffering to open you. Clear everything you hold up against them in yourself. In this way all suffering merges into wholeness.

While there are barriers in the mind deciding with its own ideas on how others will process and grow,

One contains others in themselves
One contains others energetically
One contains the direct experience with ALL life as it is
One as you still contains.

And it’s not his or her responsibility. It’s mine as I see. As I am .

And without containment in the mind body, with full awareness in your own presence with all life as it is, the potential moves beyond karmic forces to something far greater. That moment holds potential in an infinite number of ways. And it’s not my knowing. It’s not my mind deciding. It’s not my will defining. It will be as that Moment will call it to be.

And that is where I live from.

So let go of others as they will be daz and start opening to how YOU really feel about all those scenarious you’ve posted.
Ask yourself, if I let go of my mind deciding in this moment, where does karma fit now? Let your being speak daz. That means doing the very stuff your projecting outwardly will be for others.

Suffering at the core of all beings is installed because of what is. What already is as suffering. We all land into the worlds suffering. We are all carriers of each other’s suffering.

Sometimes the suffering ONE person carries is not for him to find remorse for or be responsible for, but perhaps for you to love and find compassion for. Or even the greater world as one. His piece being a catalyst for a greater movement of compassion and understanding.

So as I’m showing daz, you can weave as many scenarious of life as life is, as you see and are aware to see and it will always come back to you as the one aware and moving as you see.

You can’t decide for others how and what their life means, how and what the process of their life means.




Well said.


I think in the discussions, where we could be right or wrond about things, because discussion is inherently knowledge, the subject of kamma is one which we can most easily project, because at a fundamental level, kamma is how we react to things and not the things themselves. We tend to think that the things that happen are our kamma, but if they are then we generated them, and we need only concern ourselves with what we are generating right now - its as much as we can do.
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