Thread: The Truth Trap.
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Old 26-04-2017, 09:33 PM
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In view of all the conditioning we have endured, believing introspection as somehow free from that conditioning is easily challenged. This is always the case when one believes something to be true, in this case the validity of introspection.
Hmh ... obviously you are not considering all that I have written ... ?

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Belief is a cage. Belief is seeking to attain a permanent sentiment of truth, thus seeking safety, seeking 'a home' which necessarily is in continuous conflict with doubt since in actuality there isn't any truth.
Once one has identified through introspection this factor of mind which subjectively projects truth onto where objectively no truth can be found one grasps what it means when it is said that "all phenomena are empty of inherent existence and thus empty of truth".

Now that what I have expressed, is that true? No, since no truth can be found in the object of mind expressed although when not being able to perceive its emptiness this factor of mind may again project truth onto this object so that it may appear as 'false truth' so to say. What I have expressed is an experience based on rational analysis and corresponding analytical meditation ... believe it or not

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Originally Posted by Iamit
However if it was merely a resonance with an idea that introspection might work to solve whatever problem the mind was faced with, that problem does not arise.
That is not correct. It is not the resonance with the idea that introspection might work but the conclusion of rational analysis is that phenomena cannot exist the way they appear to exist. Therefore what makes them appear the way they appear must be a mental factor. So it is the resonance with logical thinking and rationality which entails that introspection is the appropriate method for validation of the philosophical view.

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Pragmatism versus dogmatism.
Correct.

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Originally Posted by Iamit
Dogmatism about the truth of introspection works for you which is why you defend it and condemn any criticism of it intrinsic to other approaches.
No, there is no truth to be found in introspection and I do not have to defend it because I have certainty which does not depend on the view of others. And I do not condemn any criticism of it which is why I have written:
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Of course the rational method I mentioned to cut through all 'truth entanglements' and to pacify the innate truth habits isn't applicable for all individuals because logic and rationality do not resonate with all individuals equally.

So any criticism is caused by non-resonance with logical thinking and rationality.
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