[Black Sheep]

@Pleroo, I know what you mean about how it wasn't easy to relax into it, especially as a little kid. I noticed too, how it happened with greater frequency when I was younger, but now older less common by accident. Wish I knew why. But it's nice how you have several avenues of LDing, sometimes it's not the car that matters but the road you take to get there.

@Rawnrr-Have you ever heard of Dream Yoga, it's big on that precipice of sleep-awake. Isn't it fun?! Not just for lucid dreaming but it's a great place to practice theories from work, create art as if IRL, lots of potential.

Likely it is because my conscious awareness is still in a more active state, and I am intentionally exploring the experience rather than feeling a victim of it as someone who may "accidentally" fall into it may feel.

I wonder about this as well, I can see how conscious awareness being in a more active state would be helpful. Now that I'm more aware of oh, this is SP, this is the first signpost, next signpost, etc., I experience it with a more active/inquisitive state than that hapless existential terror of victimhood. Do you think state of mind helps in this regard as well?

The first time it happened I wasn't sure what just happened, I told some people about it but nobody seemed to know what I was talking about and told me it was a dream. Heard it so many times that I started believing it, until it happened a second time some years later, right then I went straight on google and wrote 'sleep paralysis' and was shocked to see that this is actually a thing. I remember and see it as common, that when this happens, besides the panic, there is an attempt to scream loudly.

I had similarish, no one knew, depending on the library was ugh....theories aplenty, some fear-based(I needed to pray the evil spirits away), being "haunted," etc. Not till many years later, till well computers, and internet came about, I found out about SP, then oh, can't believe I had so many years of wasted opportunities.

When it happened to me in the first times I 'simply' tried to move all my body's muscles at once and scream with the panic, and eventually I was ''breaking the ice''.

The last time it happened to me tho, it's interesting because I acknowledged what was happening from the first millisecond so to speak, and for just a bit I tried to experience it without fighting it back (prolly just one thought, and not an intention), but as my mind was racing, I quickly got raged on it (if this makes any sense) and I said "oh no, I ain't got time for this ****,, the fu*k". And I was able to move after that. It didn't happened to me after that, but I don't really think it had anything to do with how I managed to ''break the ice last time", such as instead of panicking of the unknown, to simply acknowledge it and ... well yea..

Makes sense. I've never raged on it before, though nowadays, I'm more like ugh...taking for.ever. to get to stage 2 SP(body/breath dissipates to an almost death-like sensation). I've heard anger is a very movement oriented-type emotion, so can see how that would break the ice, but feel different from panic/fear which is paralyzing(at least for me it is).

What you are experiencing tho.. seems something like I did not experienced. It's strange how you describe it as a ''gift'', but I think that it's a good thing you see it as such, as you have embraced it, and when you do that... monsters turn into butterflies :-)

Ha ha, you're sweet! It's just part of my motto, everything is inherently neutral, it's how you regard it makes it a gift or a curse, thus changing the experience.

I noticed the images that arise during SP, and hypnagogic hallucinations also change, like an incredibly vivid bio-feedback tool in accordance to mental state or vibration level(higher vibrations tends to create geometric/fractal images of radiating light vs. lower darker/colder more concrete like jellyfish floating in the air or spiders crawling on the ceiling). Just a theory though, investigating personally, the whats and whys.

Thanks for all your inputs guys! I really enjoyed reading your thoughts and experiences on SP! ((group hugs if wanted))