[BlueSky]

Originally Posted by Gem

It's a quip that Descartes made which people latched onto, but it's taken out of context, and only represents a small part of his self philosophy, but he made a more complete statement, which reads,

"I had the persuasion that there was absolutely nothing in the world, that tere was no sky and no earth; neither minds nor bodies. Was I not, therefore, at the same time, persuaded that I did not exist? Far from it. I assuredly existed since I was persuaded. But there is, I know not what being, who is possessed at once of the highest power and the deepest cunning, who is constantly employing all his ingenuity in deceiving me. Doubtless then, I exist since I am deceived - and let him deceive me as he may, he can never bring it about that I am nothing so long as I am conscious that I am something, so that it must in fine be maintained, all things being maturely and carefully considered, that this proposition, I am, I exist, is necessarily true each time it is expressed by me or conceived in my mind."

I never read that before Gem. It was awesome!