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Light420 05-06-2014 09:11 AM

Meat eating Christians?
 
Do not Kill means Do not kill.....
It is not Specific......

What do you think. When a plant grows we can pick a part of it resulting in not killing it or we can regrow it through its seed. Recreating life from it.

When we kill a cow we cannot plant a cow leg or rib...and grow a new calf...

With this thinking is meat eating okay for Christians to do?:dontknow:

Morpheus 05-06-2014 10:42 AM

Regarding Noah's Flood, something apparently changed involving planet climatology and the environment. Perhaps physiologically also involvling protein requirements.
It is after the Flood that the Lord say's that mankind can then include meat in their diet.
That the fear of mankind will be present, generally, in the animal kingdom because of it.

"3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat."

http://biblehub.com/kjv/genesis/9.htm

knightofalbion 05-06-2014 12:21 PM

The First Blessing was vegan.

The Prophecy of Isaiah is vegan.

The later permission to eat flesh was given at a time when there wasn't sufficient plant food to eat, was only conceded to hardness of heart, was only intended to be temporary and was issued with a curse - 'the blood of your lives shall I require'.
A curse hardly indicates approval. Plus if it was a righteous and intended food then it would have been authorized from the start. It wasn't.

Jesus and the apostles were vegan. Veganism was a cornerstone of the Christ Consciousness teaching and ethos, as a practical daily application of the law of love.

Roman Catholicism was a State sponsored religion, intended to unify the people's of the Roman Empire. The Christian teachings were altered and interpolated to say what they wanted them to say.
The compassionate teachings were anathema to Constantine and would have been similarly so to the meat-eating, blood sports loving masses of the day. So they were suppressed.

This is how the condonement of slavery entered the Bible texts. The Roman Empire ran on slave labour and they needed it to continue.

Morpheus 05-06-2014 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by knightofalbion
The later permission to eat flesh was given at a time when there wasn't sufficient plant food to eat, was only conceded to hardness of heart, was only intended to be temporary and was issued with a curse - 'the blood of your lives shall I require'.
A curse hardly indicates approval. Plus if it was a righteous and intended food then it would have been authorized from the start. It wasn't.

Jesus and the apostles were vegan. Veganism was a cornerstone of the Christ Consciousness teaching and ethos, as a practical daily application of the law of love.


knight... you purposely have taken things out of context.
The blood requirement verse is about the shedding of another persons blood. Not about animals.

Jesus spoke also about "feasts", and gave no indication of a pro vegetarian lifestyle.
He stated that it is not what goes into a person which defiles them, but what is emitted.

"15 It's not what goes into your body that defiles you; you are defiled by what comes from within"

Interesting though, how people will assert certain things.

elisi 05-06-2014 06:05 PM

we were born carnivores.

Morpheus 05-06-2014 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by elisi
we were born carnivores.


However, people ought to live according to their conscience.
The quote from the Lord however gives us indication that what we eat is not as important as we think, within reason.

elisi 05-06-2014 06:29 PM

according to leviticus and deuteronomy, god care a heck of a lot about what we eat and shouldn't eat.

just saying........:)

Morpheus 05-06-2014 06:37 PM

Interesting point.
Now, that'a topic for an interesting dsicussion, isn't it. Why do you suppose then Jesus stated what He did? Does He have the last say in the matter?

Meanwhile, is He ever noted to have advocated the vegan lifestyle?

knightofalbion 05-06-2014 08:02 PM

The sign is the Truth - the pure in heart they shall see it.

Ecthalion 06-06-2014 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by elisi
we were born carnivores.

Not quite true; we were born omnivores.
But even if what you say is right, we were also born incontinent and unable to speak. These are skills we pick up later, as is a vegetarian diet.


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