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Love Wisdom Truth 01-12-2011 09:59 PM

What does it mean to love? To love ....
 
What does it mean to love?

"To love means to serve, to give."
B.D.


(I've read about Love (its Divine meaning) a lot and keep finding new uplifting thoughts. This one though really gives me an impulse in my life.)

Blessings

rsingh 02-12-2011 02:14 AM

What does it mean to Love? Meaning you give to Love is dependent on your state of consciosness. Love is a feeling and if you have not experienced this feeling then you may not realy understand what it means. Conceptualy it can be described as bond of oneness. Degree of love can vary from "acceptance of an object to be as it is" to "be one with it". "To serve or to give without expecting anything in return " can also be described as love. But if you expect something in return to your service then it is not love, then it is a bargain or business. God is described as Love because it unites everything that exists. Human ego makes it diffecult to love. Actualy human beings are combination of form and formless or love. So humans have a capacity to love and at the same time have capacity to analyze. Love unites and it arises from formless or life. Mind divides and leads to differentiation of everything that if perceives. Eventhough mind and life are opposing functions, they exist simultanously at the same place in human beings. If we are living predominantly from mind then we have less capability to love. This is the case with most of humanity. If we are living our life predominantly from life or formless then we are more capable to love. If we are living from formless then mind becomes the servant of formless and is not much of a problem. Otherwise mind moves our life between pleasure and pain. Actually more of pain than pleasure. It is little pleasure or hope of pleasure that keeps us going. Some persons have love in one aspect of their life and they can achieve great fame in those aspects of their life. It is usually found in artists such as painters, singers etc.

Love is life. Love is God. Love is foundation of life. Love is all that is. We can describe love in so many ways.

Humm 02-12-2011 02:44 AM

Oh yes, to love is to serve, to give - to accept, to open, to create. :hug3:

Xan 02-12-2011 03:25 AM

What does it mean to discover you are love itself?


Xan

SpiritCarrier 02-12-2011 03:35 AM

I think the Greek words for love describe it pretty well. There are so many types of love and these four words sum them up very well, at least for me:

Agápe: mean unconditional love. It refers to a general affection or deeper sense of "true love" rather than mere infatuation. Agape is used to describe sacrificial love.

Éros: is passionate love, with sensual desire and longing, It can denote "intimate love;" but does not have to be sexual in nature.

Philia: means friendship, a virtuous love, a concept developed by Aristotle. It includes loyalty to friends, family, and community, and requires virtue, equality and familiarity. It denoted a general type of love.

Storge: means "affection". It is natural affection, like the feeling a parent has for their child.

This information is found on Wikiepedia and it is much more in-depth there.

I live in the Southern USA and here we say 'love you' to friends, children, family members, we can say, 'I love that food' or 'I love that car' a variety of different things. I was surprised when I began meeting people from all over the world, surprised that other cultures do not do this. I am not criticizing in any way; I am just making a statement about this. I learned that in some cultures they only have one word for love and it is used only in regards to love between a man and a woman. After learning this information I began learning about the way the word was used in ancient times and I found that my perception of love most closely relates to the words the Greek used for Love.
Thank you Love Wisdom Truth for beginning this thread. It is an interesting subject.

Peace and Light,
SC

Humm 02-12-2011 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xan
What does it mean to discover you are love itself?


Xan


Sometimes, love hurts. :icon_frown:

silent energy 02-12-2011 04:14 AM

"When one is full of love they can do nothing else but serve god; for god is love"

- Jesus, from the Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ

Gem 02-12-2011 04:14 AM

Often people like to say 'who you really are' or tell that 'you are awareness' or 'you are love itself'.

Sounds nice and it gives the impression they know something, but in fact it only draws attention to them demonstating how spiritual they are.

Love is problematic when one is led to believe he lacks it in comparison to those make such overt demonstrations.

What is felt heartfully is love so don't let romanisized spiritual nicities distract from that.

Silver 02-12-2011 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gem
Often people like to say 'who you really are' or tell that 'you are awareness' or 'you are love itself'.

Sounds nice and it gives the impression they know something, but in fact it only draws attention to them demonstating how spiritual they are.

Love is problematic when one is led to believe he lacks it in comparison to those make such overt demonstrations.

What is felt heartfully is love so don't let romanisized spiritual nicities distract from that.


Yeah, I really sorta get that, Gem..........It's like when in the Bible, it talks about the pharisees and priests and how they would pray openly/in public and make a showy display of their supposed piety.

Xan 02-12-2011 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humm
Sometimes, love hurts. :icon_frown:


It's not love that hurts but what often goes along with it from the human mind.


Xan

Xan 02-12-2011 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silvergirl
Yeah, I really sorta get that, Gem..........It's like when in the Bible, it talks about the pharisees and priests and how they would pray openly/in public and make a showy display of their supposed piety.


Or like Jesus when he said, "I and my father are one" and "I am the way, the truth and the life" or the Buddha when he said, "I am awake."

Like a friend of mine often says... "I'm just being honest."
:wink:


Xan

Miss Hepburn 03-12-2011 12:11 AM

Hi,
Saying that love sometimes hurts, is like saying Life is sometimes tough.

Life is not tough.
Life is Life --- pure and pristine.

Love does not hurt.
Love is pure and sublime.


What is it that is tough?

What is it that hurts?

Therein lies Wisdom - deep and withstanding wisdom and insight.

Separate these things and and it is like separating salt from water ---
invaluable.
:smile:



(Where do I come up with these things....?)

Heart 04-12-2011 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xan
What does it mean to discover you are love itself?


Xan



very very good Xan, for it is in the seat of your heart you will find the greatest part of you

its been a while since we last spoke, bless you

Humm 04-12-2011 09:28 PM

Thanks Xan and Miss H - very good explanations. :smile:

Mr Interesting 04-12-2011 10:31 PM

What does it mean to Love? well, I would suppose it doesn't mean anything.

Maybe Love simply comes after meanings fall away.

So when I'm happy and joyful and just doing it then whatever's in front of me is that... that is.

Silver 04-12-2011 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Interesting
What does it mean to Love? well, I would suppose it doesn't mean anything.

Maybe Love simply comes after meanings fall away.

So when I'm happy and joyful and just doing it then whatever's in front of me is that... that is.


Hon........I think you just topped their explanations.:angel5:
:hug3:

Humm 04-12-2011 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silvergirl
Hon........I think you just topped their explanations.:angel5:
:hug3:

*shrug* Sounded closer to just 'Be-ing' to me. Love is the source of the Be-ing IMO, and the stage upon which it all plays.

Silver 04-12-2011 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humm
*shrug* Sounded closer to just 'Be-ing' to me. Love is the source of the Be-ing IMO, and the stage upon which it all plays.


Oh, YOU shrug! Who the H cares anymore? I'm very tired of the dueling love-experts around here~causing more trouble than it's worth. Far from my idea of demonstrating love or it's nearest cousin.

Xan 04-12-2011 11:21 PM

What trouble are we causing you, Silvergirl? I would like to know, really.


Xan

Silver 04-12-2011 11:23 PM

That you don't hear or understand a lot of people who don't agree with you.

Xan 04-12-2011 11:23 PM

Sounded closer to just 'Be-ing' to me. Love is the source of the Be-ing IMO, and the stage upon which it all play.

I'll top you then, Humm... :wink:

Love is Being... no difference except in our perception.


Xan

Humm 04-12-2011 11:53 PM

...and the universe Be-ing... ?

:wink:

Humm 04-12-2011 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silvergirl
Oh, YOU shrug! Who the H cares anymore? I'm very tired of the dueling love-experts around here~causing more trouble than it's worth. Far from my idea of demonstrating love or it's nearest cousin.


So sorry SG - I was mistaken.

Xan 04-12-2011 11:58 PM

the universe Be-ing love itself


Xan

TzuJanLi 05-12-2011 12:07 AM

Greetings..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silvergirl
That you don't hear or understand a lot of people who don't agree with you.

Please be careful, SG.. the last thing a Mutual Admiration Society tolerates, is non-admiration..

Be well..

Xan 05-12-2011 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heart
very very good Xan, for it is in the seat of your heart you will find the greatest part of you

its been a while since we last spoke, bless you


Heart blessings to you, heart. :smile:


Xan

Xan 05-12-2011 12:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silvergirl
That you don't hear or understand a lot of people who don't agree with you.


I hear the disagreement, Silvergirl, and I think I generally understand what people are saying.

It does feel good when someone is aware in universal love and pure being as I am,
but I'm not looking for 'agreement'.

I'm expressing myself from my own experience, like everyone is... except my experience of life happens to be pretty unusual.

But my question is more about you and what bugs you about that.


Xan

Mountain-Goat 05-12-2011 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silvergirl
Oh, YOU shrug! Who the H cares anymore? I'm very tired of the dueling love-experts around here~causing more trouble than it's worth. Far from my idea of demonstrating love or it's nearest cousin.

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what is referred to as, a burn.
The modern vernacular of "reality check"
As Lester Burnham would say, "Spectacular !"
And firing off a reality check can be an act of love because one doesn't want their brother or sister to remain in illusion.

Gem 05-12-2011 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
Hi,
Saying that love sometimes hurts, is like saying Life is sometimes tough.

Life is not tough.
Life is Life --- pure and pristine.

Love does not hurt.
Love is pure and sublime.


What is it that is tough?

What is it that hurts?

Therein lies Wisdom - deep and withstanding wisdom and insight.

Separate these things and and it is like separating salt from water ---
invaluable.
:smile:



(Where do I come up with these things....?)


It seem to me you fish them out of shallow pools.

Mr Interesting 05-12-2011 02:20 AM

Okay I'll try again...

What does it mean to love?

This time I'll take the question as a "when this happens what else happens"

When you are in Love the self disappears, the ego takes a back seat and might even lose it's grip and the need to take any position doesn't even come near being relevant. I suppose one could call it being or sharing or whatever but the simple timelessness of those moments makes any need to measure it or make sense of it somewhat meaningless.

So, to me, it's one of those feelings that you don't recognise till it's gone and when it's happening you don't care what it's called.

And ,dare I say it, the simple fact that we're here discussing it means we're not in it.

We have to suspend Love to be sitting here typing, unless we're channeling... oh, it can be close by and an easy hop back too but if you're here typing it's a remembered thing.

I think that's what gets Silvergirl a little annoyed and it gets me a little annoyed here sometimes too. We are all sitting in front of computers with our minds working to create analytical responses... There's no other way to be here.

Last time I was at the 'puter shop the choice of chairs to sit in didn't include little fluffy floating clouds and modems didn't include an option for a usb link to ones heart.

Xan 05-12-2011 02:36 AM

Well, my friend, it just so happens that I do feel love sitting here in front of my laptop... and I feel it most of the time.

The idea that we can't feel love while we're in another mode is not true.

Love is here within and all around us all the time.

We can let our awareness expand so that we may notice and feel it.


Xan

Humm 05-12-2011 02:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Interesting
...I think that's what gets Silvergirl a little annoyed and it gets me a little annoyed here sometimes too. We are all sitting in front of computers with our minds working to create analytical responses... There's no other way to be here...


I don't mean no disrespect Mr. I - but it's just that my view is that the reason we are able to do anything is because of the love of the Creator - and that we in turn are an extension of that.

Sometimes we are in a conscious space that includes that, and sometimes not. I'm just saying don't make the mistake of thinking it's absent because you are free to do other things - you are free because of that love, even if you aren't in that conscious space.

Just my beliefs, just my view.

TzuJanLi 05-12-2011 02:50 AM

Greetings..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Interesting
Okay I'll try again...

What does it mean to love?

This time I'll take the question as a "when this happens what else happens"

When you are in Love the self disappears, the ego takes a back seat and might even lose it's grip and the need to take any position doesn't even come near being relevant. I suppose one could call it being or sharing or whatever but the simple timelessness of those moments makes any need to measure it or make sense of it somewhat meaningless.

So, to me, it's one of those feelings that you don't recognise till it's gone and when it's happening you don't care what it's called.

And ,dare I say it, the simple fact that we're here discussing it means we're not in it.

We have to suspend Love to be sitting here typing, unless we're channeling... oh, it can be close by and an easy hop back too but if you're here typing it's a remembered thing.

I think that's what gets Silvergirl a little annoyed and it gets me a little annoyed here sometimes too. We are all sitting in front of computers with our minds working to create analytical responses... There's no other way to be here.

Last time I was at the 'puter shop the choice of chairs to sit in didn't include little fluffy floating clouds and modems didn't include an option for a usb link to ones heart.

Hi Mr. I: Some people use the word 'Love' in whatever manner suits their intentions, disregarding any common understandings, or.. without any intention to relate on any level other than the one they choose as their own.. yes, they can congratulate themselves for their uncompromising values, though..

Be well..

Humm 05-12-2011 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xan
Well, my friend, it just so happens that I do feel love sitting here in front of my laptop... and I feel it most of the time.

The idea that we can't feel love while we're in another mode is not true.

Love is here within and all around us all the time.

We can let our awareness expand so that we may notice and feel it.


Xan

Xan, you are someone who is in that conscious space most of the time - that is why I value your presence.

Look at some of the earlier posts today - I say something someone doesn't like, and some others just pile on me - remember the topic title? Such irony!

Funny, that.

Mr Interesting 05-12-2011 07:42 AM

Nah we're with you Humm, and with everyone else. Personally I like stirring.

Shoulda left well enough alone I guess but I was rootin' for Silver.

Love is smilin' at the homeless person 'cause no one will see them. It's not a duty but something that wells up from inside that needs to be done... or is that compassion?

Like the divine love that is behind all the good things is all well and good but I question where our inner reserves end and in the face of anger and frustration in others and danger to ourselves... can we still find the love?

I suppose we can.

Mountain-Goat 05-12-2011 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Interesting
Okay I'll try again...
What does it mean to love?
We have to suspend Love to be sitting here typing,

Quote:

Maybe Love simply comes after meanings fall away.
So when I'm happy and joyful and just doing it then whatever's in front of me is that... that is.
But not typing...apparently.
Quote:

What does it mean to Love? well, I would suppose it doesn't mean anything.
It means this...it doesn't mean anything...please make up your mind so I can understand your position.

Silver 05-12-2011 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Interesting
Nah we're with you Humm, and with everyone else. Personally I like stirring. I'm with you, too, Humm~certain things I may not be able to cope with anymore in my old age, etc., rofl.

Shoulda left well enough alone I guess but I was rootin' for Silver. Thx Mr. I:hug:

Love is smilin' at the homeless person 'cause no one will see them. It's not a duty but something that wells up from inside that needs to be done... or is that compassion?
I do believe compassion is a kissin' cousin of love...

Like the divine love that is behind all the good things is all well and good but I question where our inner reserves end and in the face of anger and frustration in others and danger to ourselves... can we still find the love?

I suppose we can. Absolutely ~ you know we can~* We all know we can.

K.I.S.S (Keep It Simple, Sunshine) when in doubt.



=^..^= =^..^=

Humm 05-12-2011 10:03 AM

Let me apologize, again.

I must say though I feel my post was misunderstood.

I did NOT mean to 'stir'. I meant ONLY to post MY thought on your thought.

I'm guessing the *shrug* I preceded my comment with was taken as a dismissal of your thought, when what was intended was actually to try to minimize my own.

Interesting it touched off such a powder keg.

Can someone explain to me how that is so, that an off-hand comment STRICTLY expressing MY pov set off such an explosion? Did you all really feel that I dissed SG and Mr. I that much? :confused:

Let's look at that again, now that we have some distance:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Humm
*shrug* Sounded closer to just 'Be-ing' to me. Love is the source of the Be-ing IMO, and the stage upon which it all plays.


Please educate me. :icon_frown:

Humm 05-12-2011 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TzuJanLi
Greetings...Hi Mr. I: Some people use the word 'Love' in whatever manner suits their intentions, disregarding any common understandings, or.. without any intention to relate on any level other than the one they choose as their own.. yes, they can congratulate themselves for their uncompromising values, though...

Do you accept the common understanding of love?

Do you relate to more levels than just your own?

Do you compromise your values?

hybrid 05-12-2011 10:20 AM

Love is a connection.
We watch people die evryday and all we can muster is a sigh,
our pets died and we cried for a week, why?
Because we are connected to our pets more than to the suffering world
the measure of our love will depend to the measure of our conne tion to life and all things
and the measure oof our connection to all things depends on our awareness to oneness of all things
the measure of oneness awreness is inversely proportional to the awareness of ones sense of self.

.


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