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can you stop your heart or chakras? like i came up with a username? decide to have fewer or more and it happens? |
ok. so i just remembered something else from my intuition. intuition says, " i am nothing more than an instrument." im thinking this message has something in it for the discussion. gonna think about it.
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The mind certainly projects its own interpretation of things via the senses and the intellect, but what produces the mind? I am suggesting it is the body and the subtle energy body. The way the mind interprets and understands to me then defines the level of consciousness that someone operates from. In the end it's just a different belief system really, and we all will have our own personal belief systems. It seems to me that you are proposing a Buddhist belief system, but in the end that too is just one more belief system. The answer to why beliefs range from 3, 5, 7 or more chakras to even no chakras at all might be due to imperfect comprehension of the energy body, but it doesn't prove there is no energy body made of chakras and nadi's. |
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Respecting all views, my take on kundalini as an intermediate manifestation is as follows, reproduced from another section on SF: Sleepy consciousness Awaking to awareness As Absoluteness So cognises But no longer sizes Yet embraces surprises Unfettered & free Renewing the flowing entrée With childlike glee Duality is ... so live & flow Non duality is ... so let love glow In stillness slow *** |
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I've tried to come up with an answer to your questions for a couple of days, and I can't really :smile: In my own understanding we are not aware of the divided nature of our brains, and in the race to be non-dual the physical basis of the two lobes that underpin our brains workings is ignored. Split brain experiments suggested that a separate consciousness existed in each lobe of the brain, this was a theory based on their findings and and not able to be proven, but I have come to the same conclusion. Following on from this idea, the physical underpinning of the brain lobes as the source of consciousness can be assumed. Ultimately my consciousness should be able to sit above identification with either lobe, or any chakra, lately I have considered this consciousness to potentially be something like the symphony that the chakras and the lobes create when working in harmony, comprehending and integrating each individual tone from below. This isn't an answer your question, just riffing on my current thinking. |
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The kundalini as energy ... as our consciousness itself awakens, enlivening the body ... the body being our vehicle for earth life experience. In time, as of my experience (naughty! naughty! All experiences being manifestations!), all chakras are not only aligned but also entwined as a rod of living energy within form in permanence. Then there is no need of any kundalini movement since there is no here or there or coming or going. We are the dormant or slowly awakening consciousness and we are also the formless oneness awareness. It is a pulse. One becoming two. Two fusing as one. A dance. *** |
Hello,
As posted before on this thread: "But the question remains as to why Energy takes this form of Matter and not that of simple currents of force, or why really Spirit admits it as the phenomenon of matter and does not remain at rest in the states, the desires and the joys of the spirit. (...) But obviously the incarnated individual mind is not the creator of the phenomenon of Matter." Shrî Aurobindo, The Divine Life. |
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Can you stop the rain? Are you still trapped in the local mind? Move beyond it and then where are you? |
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Actually all traditions have the same belief I am pointing out. Chakras, nadis and an energy body is at the local mind level. Likes stages of realization. When you realize you are everything where then is your energy body? |
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The two truly merged you would be the source of all that is. All that is, is the energy that is ever expanding and contracting and at the same time a perfect stillness. Quote:
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