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django 13-08-2018 08:15 AM

Would an atheist really go to hell?
 
Is there really a hell? Would an atheist really go there? Watch this video and see what you think...


https://youtu.be/pmp3UNjeu0k

Miss Hepburn 13-08-2018 12:26 PM

No. Just no....unless they created a hell of their own making.

django 14-08-2018 05:00 AM

Here is a quite beautiful story of one lady's experience that she recounts decades after the event.

https://youtu.be/KwCyEhYlyis

sky123 14-08-2018 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by django
Is there really a hell? Would an atheist really go there? Watch this video and see what you think...


https://youtu.be/pmp3UNjeu0k




It's all in the mind :biggrin:

luke86 14-08-2018 10:21 AM

Not so long ago during the meditation I received idea: "you die normally and go to hell, or commit suicide and go to heaven". I don't know about origin of that idea, but I think that hell won't be so scary, ha ha.

Busby 14-08-2018 04:31 PM

As only words and deeds count in life an atheist could easily end up in heaven.

sentient 16-08-2018 09:35 AM

Ego Death:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ego_death


It has been said:
Quote:

Tantric Buddhists are in the position of a snake inside a bamboo tube; one hole faces up to the Dharmakaya, the other down toward Vajra Hell. There are only two options -- up or down; no in-between. Keeping samaya (commitment) determines which way the snake slides.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zIKQCwDXsA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ5B70ac_9M

Blog:
http://shinzenyoung.blogspot.com/201...1_archive.html

django 16-08-2018 10:45 AM


Thanks sentient for your contribution, there is a kind of anti-hell sentiment due to Christianity, but as far as I can see even early Buddhism referred to multiple hell realms. I'll watch your links ASAP :)

edit:interesting issue, DP/DR, I say that because I willingly went into a void like space because I think it is where the old self breaks down, but while I was in there I found that it was completely dark (not hell like, just dark), and to do what I had to do and go further I needed light to see by. After a few days I thought to myself "Jesus is the name associated with light par excellence," and that day light started to shine in the black void, and progress unfolded. When I think of this void as the place that Buddhists aim to enter and accept as the end point I can't help but think that for me this was the point where I first looked to Jesus in full consciousness and with an awareness that I couldn't create the light that I needed in the dark by myself.

I told someone this story and he said to me that any deity would have given me light, it's an interesting idea kind of related to this thread, and I find myself wondering about the possibility that any deity would do, and if I was programmed to think of Jesus, or whether it really could only be Jesus who supplies that light. I did have an experience many years ago where I was suffering and I asked Jesus for help and the suffering disappeared instantly, so I might be primed to just turn to Jesus again, it's altogether an interesting topic to me anyway.

sentient 16-08-2018 04:25 PM

django, your story, your beautiful faith in Jesus was lovely.

The videos you posted, could they have been about a purgatory process?

In the blog link (I posted) “Shinzen talks about the two sides - heavenly and hellish - sides of the bhanga” (the dissolution of the ego) with 3 videos: “Experiences of the Dissolution (Bhanga) Process”.

Sounds horrible, but it is good you brought this subject up, as it could potentially happen to meditators or anyone and Shinzen explaining the process a bit gives some understanding about these hell-like visions.

Tobi 17-08-2018 12:13 AM

I very much doubt if being an "ATHEIST" would take a person's Soul into a Hell-like state or situation on the Astral/Spirit realm.

Many people who don't happen to believe in "God" nevertheless live by true and good ways, of kindness, compassion and intelligence. It's what we resonate with, not what names we call it, that decides what our Soul is really up to. One can live by good ways yet not wish to believe in what men call "God". Or even be into reading the Bible.
There are some people who have never heard of the Bible. There are animals for instance who have no concept or clue about what we have dreamed up in our philosophies, yet they don't go to "Hell" when they pass over! they go to what they truly are inside their hearts. So do we.


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