how do you accept you are here?
 

Hi there

I am really struggling with being "down here" at the moment. I just want to escape "up there" where it is beautiful, loving, light and limitless.

How do you accept that you re down here. What have you done to truly be down here and make the most of it?

By leading and not following, as well as not letting people tell you what to belive ( of course being openminded at the same time)

Nice response, Tea Break.

I've been around long enough to see the ups n downs of life, for sure, and I struggle sometimes the same way you do, but my 'template' is one of god or a higher power or 'inventor of the universe' gave us the gift of life, and I do very much enjoy the beauty in it, that's very important to appreciate the good stuff, good loving kindhearted people that we meet or read about, enjoying the adventure, sometimes it's enough to sit and stare at a sunset over the ocean or wherever, the starlit sky, and recently, I've even 'trained' myself to enjoy the neighbor's yelling, lol! To appreciate who people that you don't even know for who they are. Life's sometimes weird, mysterious and annoying. But when you think about how our brains work, and oh everything else, it is just so amazing to me. I wish I never had to die. But there are times I feel very sad. Best wishes, tilia.

I think the best reason to be down here is to share with us all that beautiful, loving, limitless light. Come on down and shine.

"I think the best reason to be down here is to share with us all that beautiful, loving, limitless light. Come on down and shine."

No matter what your beleif, the odds are this is in its teachings....
GJ

Hello tilia :)

I know that feeling! I just got relief from that feeling, like...this month! I wanted to go home so bad, sooooo bad.

What changed? I'm not completely sure, as these things go...I was aware of that feeling as you are of yours and being a new member of this site is a part of my recently acquired 'better mood' about being here.

I have always been torn, I have wanted to leave here since I was young. I always had strong feelings of not belonging and thinking I was not the same as other people. I feel less like that on a site like this!

What kind of changed was my acceptance of my divine nature. I decided, I must think these things for a reason-I have always thought them and now I give in. It was a good thing. I feel connected more to "home" and the message I feel came through was this:

you are exactly where you want to be. The idea is for us to bring "home" to earth. It is a tough job. You are not alone. You found this message board, and I am glad you shared how you are feeling. Because it is how I feel too.

Thank you and I send you loving peaceful energy, I am glad you are here to post your thoughts and feelings. :) ~Namaste

Some souls remember home (the other side) too well and have that longing to be back. We are here for a special purpose and therefore we must learn to find the positive in our existence; even though we may feel "life" is pointless. It really isn't. You just haven't found your reason for wanting to come here. Try hard to get into meditations, quieting your logical mind and tuning into your spirit within. You will find the answers you seek there.

A one word answer:

Surrender

Good way to put the question. A great key is to be fully committed to living the life you want to live, the best life, doing the things your heart wishes you would do, truly to the deepest things inside you rather than to surface things. Then you realize life matters, what you do here matters.

I must admit that my practice itself helps because it is very embodied, kundalini-based stuff. Lots of feelings and bliss that carry through the day. But the day itself is already full of things I feel so strongly about. They don't have to be big things. Learning a better massage technique or growing a better strawberry is a great challenge. I have a vision of the life I want to live, the person I want to be, that is in tune with the heart, and that seems to do the trick.

To me life is also full of magic because of the presence of nature. I do chi kung with a couple of trees in a park near me, they have taught me more than most human beings... I mean how cool is that? Certain things are only present on earth. Earth's beauty, yes, is shot through with all kinds of shadows. But I have a genuine love for it.

i agree with prokopton, as difficult as this life has been for me i'd rather be here then up there anyways

Wait did I say that? :)

I didn't say that!

i agreed with your thoughts then added my own input wasn't saying you said that

Try to never feel sad about the circumstances of our lives here, gang - or why we're here, either.:hug2:

I know it's a big "ask", and I get grey days myself. So I try to keep my focus on the fact that this is an eternal existence I'm living, and this life is only a very small part of that, and the "grey days" are only an even teenier part of this brief life's whole. (Are you lot still with me? :D )

The grey days help me to appreciate the happy ones - and there's many more of those, for all of us.

We're serving a purpose - so be proud!

Angel Blessings to All. :angel9:

You do not have to be here all the time, things like meditation and daydreaming in moderation does take you away from yourself during those times when it all gets a bit too much :hug:

how do do i accept that i'm here?

lol what choice do i have?

HI all

thanks for the replies. I have been reading and pondering.

I was chatting to the Ash tree in the garden and got the same message as Internal Queries leans towards.... I have a choice, be here and be happy or be here and be miserable.. they are my only choices. Sadly at the moment there were no pointers on how to ensure that I am happy.

I am an emotional scorpio and when I am being emotional that is ALL I am. I don't see outside it. Somehow I have to learn to detach myself from the emotion and see it for what it is....

But, Ash said that I didn't need the answers straight away. He had me saw off a dead branch.. that took ages and lots of work.. to show me things aren't always fast but if I keep working at it I will get there.

I have had a lovely weekend in my garden, connecting, loving, creating. I have been surrounded by people I love and it has been wonderful.. no need to escape from that.

Sadly it's back to the outside world tomorrow and I will be wanting to escape again :( Day1, lesson 1 I guess.

all you have to do is remember that you are up there

It's a lot harder when you don't necessarily believe that there is an "up there". Down here seems to be all you have, and its pretty awful some of the time.

hmmm i don't believe in an "up there". i imagine more like an "over there". just a one step forward and "there" you are! of course, i'm already "there" ... in the future. i just have to catch up with myself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBj0O...ature=youtu.be We are here for 2012 :) I certainly want to go home but in the stillness and light there is magic . x

Konrad, sorry but that doesn't make sense. I can connect to "up there" no problem at all these days... it is connecting to 3d that I am struggling with.

To me there is a difference and there is a purpose.

It feels like a shift in the focus of my path. Previously I was working on reconnecting with Spirit, with my guides, remembering how to work with the light. I have been working on deep healing on many levels for about 10 years.

Now the coin has flipped. I am now very much working on real world issues. Issues with how I interact with 3d people. Learning how to move forward with the effect of healing past stuff.

I'm not saying there isn't more past stuff to heal, I don't know. But the space I am in now is very much working with the now rather than the then.

Working with the past was relatively easy. Deep healing sessions supported by a wonderful healer and beautiful crystal and angelic energy. Hard at the time but soon over.

Real world stuff is so much harder, I have to take bigger risks, I have to walk more alone (although my guides are there, I just need to remember). I have to deal with people that hurt me, people I risk hurting.

I'm not saying I'm trying to bail out of doing the work... more I find it so hard to do it and stay positive.

I can connect to "up there" and feel the energies and the love... but in time I have to come back. I have to learn to bring those energies down here, but I don't yet know how.

I'm in a good place at the moment, I have had a wonderful, chilled and light filled weekend.... tomorrow when I am back in a job that either bores or scares me, with people that I don't resonate with I will find it hard again and lose my connection again.

Practice, practice, practice.....

Topaz.. thank you for the link. However I don't fully subscribe to the 2012 stuff. I am very much, I'll believe it when it happens as there have been so many other "watershed times" that don't appear to have been that amazing when they came and went....

Just my opinion and I do appreciate you taking the time to respond. :hug3:

You seem to think your spirit is contaminated in some way :hug:

i know that much healing is required, and i am not one to say that i do not have a LOT more healing to go through. But the key to healing and letting go of the past is understanding both are illusions. Otherwise, they both become very real to you and therefore very painful

thats all i meant by remembering that you are there, because in my opinion you have never left your infinite loving light, friend =)

Hi Konrard.... I think we have differing beliefs and experiences. I respect that it is right for you, but it doesn't quite resonate with me.

I can assure you that I don't feel that my spirit is contaminated.

Thank you for taking the time to respond tho :hug3:

Please don't take this as anything other than respectful.

:D sorry for my misperception

:hug3::D:D

In an e-mail from a friend just now, I read the following -

"Life isn't about waiting for the storm to pass - it's about learning how to dance in the rain"

I dunno who said it - but it makes sense to me(!) and helped remind me that the "hiccup" I had to deal with this morning is just a little shower, which is already passing. :smile:

Enjoy your dances this week, everyone :wink:

Angel Blessings to All :angel9:

Precisely, so my question is.. how do you learn to dance in the rain? What do you do?

I have to confess I get a little frustrated (not with you Tea Break) with people who give you these little sentences that sound so full of wisdom, but are actually fairly empty when it comes to actually applying them.

Yes, I want to dance in the rain.... but how?

Maybe it's just me but I find it very hard if I have an emotion about a situation to switch it off just because someone says "don't sweat it"... how do you do that? How do you stop being sad/angry/scared "just like that?"

When one experiences kundalini, the great beauty of the light beyond is embodied within oneself. So maybe you could consider a serious practice towards awakening your inner energy in this body and in this world.

EDIT: Perhaps in the meantime work with a simple meditation such as the Inner Smile. I'm sorry I'm not yet allowed to post links, but if you google "scribd awaken healing energy" that will take you to a copy of Mantak Chia's "Awaken Healing Energy", which has a great Inner Smile meditation on pps. 41-50. If you try that for the traditional 100 days, you should find yourself a lot happier. It builds the energy of the smile into the energy of your body.

Ok, well I quoted the wrong message but I'll just put my input here anyway:

You said you have trouble bringing that Love and Light down into the real world. This connection is symbolized by the crown chakra (7th). This is where spirit connects to physicality. You might try doing some work on this chakra, or putting energy into strengthening that connection if you're not into the chakra model.

The physical world can be a very hard place for people like you. My wife has also spent many years 'up there', ignoring the real world. She has only just come back 'down' around the beginning of this year. It has been hard and a little frustrating to watch. Its a lot like watching a child learn to walk, you are constantly afraid they will fall and hit their head on something, but you just have to let it all happen and take joy in them learning something new.

It will get easier. Have faith in that thought.

I am like that I dont want to be here but feel connected with something else it seems to be light related. Something not here but out there. THe christian in me is connected with God but there is a cosmic type thing too.

Why do we always believe the grass is greener on the other side of the fence?

That isna good point. There is a part of me that longs for another place. I am not sure what it is, but it is as though part of me longs to go home, while part of me knows that part will remain here. Dont ask me why I think that, it just is...

well, maybe because some of us seem to have an intrinsic longing for something or somewhere else, a something or somewhere else that makes more sense than what we live here in this reality. if we belonged here, felt comfortable here we wouldn't have that longing. none of the events we witness, the experiences we experience would puzzel us or cause us distress. it'd all feel normal and we'd feel at home. none of us would be searching our souls for meaning and purpose and a succor from loneliness.

I am not sure we would be experiencing 'here' if we didn't belong here ... That sense of belonging can be every bit as powerful as that yearning ...

oh i suppose but if one never really felt a sense of belonging then this reality might seem alien.

In that respect, it is possible one may experience just as much unrest 'up there' or where ever the preferred there is believed to be ...

well, one may imagine a union or reunion with those with whom one belongs. personally i'm still holding out hope to find myself in the midst of my vibrational peers here in this reality. We always know Us when We encounter Us.

it may be a leftover need from when we were tribal. ever since i can remember i've always wanted a tribal identity, a "my people".