does maya obey any laws?
 

There is this saying which springs to mind - heaven first, earth will follow.

So perhaps it is also - heaven first, maya will follow.

Meaning that maya obeys the laws of the spiritual world.

Once the spiritual world is sorted out then maya shall obey.

Is this how you see it?

Maya's duty is to keep you unconscious and unaware, and immersed in habitual reactivity, emotivity and negativity. It's objective is to keep sentient beings under the domination of matter and be unconscious and suffer.

However if one overcomes the gravity pull of unconsciousness to rise to higher levels of consciousness, to that extent Maya or nature becomes servile to oneself.

The Yoga Sutras state that for the enlightened being, Maya as in nature becomes a slave of the enlightened one. Some enlightened masters state euphemistically that nature becomes a loyal friend instead.

Perfect! LOL :biggrin:

Yea what Miss H. said. Great way to describe, very succinct.

Very often it seems that parents are in a role to bear this responsibility. I wonder if there is a connection?

The primary law of Maya to me is that it is always precisely and perfectly suited to the occasion. A flip-side that awaits resolution in awareness.

Thanks for the question Honza. Someone needs to ask if we are ever to consider.

I thought that maya was a neutral power??

Is it in fact malevolent?

Law of Karma
 

One very important law everything follows in maya is the law of karma which means "action and consequence". We act, Universe responds - like an echo. I study jyotish where this is seen very clearly.

Namaste.

I was about to say The Law of Karma.....Uma beat me to it.

Maya is a law unto itself and it obeys its own laws...even the law of not obeying any laws....this is what makes it Maya, as it is subject to subjectiveness.

It is actualized in juxtaposition to Brahman, to that which is beyond any laws of cause and effect...in fact, all that can really be said about Brahman, relates to the whole permanence of it. The law relating to that which is NOT Maya, is that it always IS and always remains as such - therefore, laws or rules are unnecessary and superfluous.

As soon as we apply laws to the Absolute, this makes it Maya.

Is Maya malevolent? Yes and no. She can be Kali...she can be Uma/Parvati.
It depends on perception...is Maya blocking the way to Enlightenment or making it easier to realise that the cake is a lie? It all depends on the way she is looked at.

Aum Namah Shivaya

I found this very helpful thanks. Also when the second question arose whether Maya is malevolent, I was out of my depth to properly speculate and so a proper Hindu perspective would be needed and appreciated.

Laws in this Illusion or Maya are all around us...Newton, Copernicus esp, Kepler....
found so many laws..using math often.

Now, does spirit trump these laws...
well, surely that was one of the points Jesus was making.

You are very welcome and I am glad the Hindu perspective has been appreciated.

I have all of the Dailypedia Apps on my mobile, and I woke up this morning to a quote by Ramana Maharishi:

"If you are firm in your belief in the guidance of God, stick to it and do not concern yourself with what happens around you"- Ramana Maharishi

While Mooji said:

"If we pay too much attention to things, we will keep on seeing things. If you pay more attention to the space in which things come and go, then you will stop seeing things and you will feel just harmony within the space itself"- Mooji.

Yes, Miss H, there are many laws...the Law of Gravity, Thermodynamics, Attraction, Karma etc and for the most part, Material Nature (Prakriti) abides by them...but I have also experienced situations where She does not and doesn't play fair and cheats just because she CAN....this is almost always used as a lesson to teach me that She is not predictable and I don't get to control anything in my life when Her 'better half" (Purusha) has other ideas and plans for me.

Aum Namah Shivaya

THIS. I have experienced this too. Maya is definitely spiteful and wants things to go her way. She does not like people having a good and spiritual time.

This is life, the universe is set up to wear us away, to destroy our form. when this is combined with the karma we have to endure due to past intent, then even when we are on a spiritual path, indeed often because we are on one, maya or life can seem to be cruel. But it isnt, its just karma doing its thing. By following an avatar we can get some of our negative karma burnt away through our worship, but big karma, that has to be paid. However even then, being under the guidance or following an aavtar will give us the strength to bear this karma.

....Jyotir, your words are uplifting, as well! :smile:

Occasionally maya can tell a joke. Something funny happens which makes me laugh. It happened just the other day.

There are no laws just love and hate. Laws are what humans have come up with to get others to conform to a certain idea. Amen

Sounds a bit cynical. :rolleyes:

The "laws" of Maya can indeed be "transcended by higher principle", as you duly noted. Virtually nothing is impossible when one is attuned to the "higher principle". :smile:

Well said. :thumbsup:

Yes! :smile:

Ha, Gravity...we fly...but we also dematerialize ....like when Jesus seemed to Ascend to Heaven.
Walking on water was very against the laws here, too! LOL!!!! :tongue: Or that one night in Texas...ah, yes.

Yes.
About as neutral as the floor boards the actors stand on on the stage. :wink:
But, there may always be the one that curses the loose board, I suppose.
Still part of the play!

Cynical but true. Think about it. Humans created law so society would conform. There are no laws just love and hate the polar opposites. End of the road. Amen

To me,
Maya is like a stage play in which the observer believes everything is real
but when the stage play is over, so is the illusion.


For example, many believe we are all gods,
but only look at what we observe to be real
instead of realizing what we thought was real is only an illusion.

In Hinduism, the 'good' guys and the 'bad' guys seem to take a bow
after each final scene just like they did in some of the Star Wars episodes.

I am really enjoying your posts and you seem quite conversant on a wide range of perspectives, including Hinduism, in what you write.


You have nicely summarized the koan-like ending to the Hindu epic, The Mahabharata, where the "good guy" Yudishthira encounters his adversary, the "bad guy" Duryodhana", after the final scene. Most people don't understand that scene (and either did Yudisthira initially). Shakespeare makes exactly the same point in his oft-repeated "all the world's a stage" passage. Well done ! :thumbsup:

Or perhaps maya is obeying right now, and is showing us how our own spiritual world is sorted out. Which might explain why maya often seems to obey Murphy's law.

The "compliment" (:biggrin:) is well-deserved ! :thumbsup:

Maya has been going crazy in my life recently. It corresponds to me lifting my energy to a higher level. "The world" has been fighting back. Nothing seems to be working out right now. It takes several attempts to achieve a positive result.