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Taurus Rose 11-07-2019 06:58 PM

Manifesting When Depressed?
 
Hello all!

I've been attempting to add affirmation and manifestation into my life and trying to be more positive about what I want to come my way. However, everyone deals with those pesky days where it's really hard to stay positive, especially if you're battling depression. With depression, you can't just make yourself happy. If anything, you put on a mask and pretend like you are happy. I don't feel like pretending to be happy will manifest anything, especially if I'm not truly feeling it for that day. How in the world am i suppose to affirm and manifest when depression can hit me for multiple days or weeks even? What are some of the things you do to manifest things while battling depression? I would love some insight on someone who has experienced this issue or has maybe even overcame it.

Thank you in advance! :hug2:

_dagmar_ 11-07-2019 08:30 PM

I don't really battle depression. I've been suggested to read this, read that and so I do. Not because someone tells me to but because I believe you.

Coincidence yeah sure I believe. The observation of thruth, it does not comply with other peoples observations and denial of the existence of light and darkness.

So I venture alone. Silent ! You are not supposed to talk about god, that don't exist. You are psychotic so let me suggest these pills.

Some say it's a curse. You are one of the few that see more clearly, you see me yet this is what you do to me ?

I am a star child ? sure whatever. I know one thing, I am. I am so I exist. Reading gaining knowledge rejecting this and that because it feels wrong.

And now I've got a spiritual bypass, sinner why do you destroy your innocence. You are my innocent child, stop hurting me, I am ! Always and infinite.

Behold I send a sheep amidst wolves. Vanity my favorite. Policing...

O and ps;
The worst vice is advice so let me me make a suggestion to you and let me take away your fate.

Miss Hepburn 11-07-2019 10:38 PM

Have u read 'Ask and It Is Given' from cover to cover?
That will help.
There is an Emotion scale...as in, you could go from depression to a little hopeful..
to a little just 'ok....rather than shoot for happiness directly.
Cuz from
'ok'...could come a bit of enthusiasm....way better than depression.


I will say 27-29 can be a tough time cuz of the 'Saturn Return'.


iamthat 12-07-2019 02:06 AM

You ask "What are some of the things you do to manifest things while battling depression?" Perhaps you need to discover the cause of your depression. Otherwise, trying to manifest a happy life while struggling with depression seems futile.

I am a great believer that depression has its origins in suppressed feelings of pain and grief. Depression ends when these suppressed feelings are brought to the surface and fully experienced and released. Then we feel freer and lighter and we can focus more on manifesting the life we desire.

Peace.

Unseeking Seeker 12-07-2019 02:21 AM

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emotions being manifestations emanating from thought and then indulgence in the emotion reinforcing thought becomes a cycle whose root lies within our choice to indulge, to stagnate owing to delusional fear or desire, in that illusionary state.

this being so all we need to do is rotate polarity of thought and resultant emotion. depression to joy ... joy to depression ... depression to joy ... look at the rotation. it is a dance. do not fight it, just look at it. the emotions we do experience but we are flowing, essence of our presence is flowing, experiencing & observing. like a game!

more often than not, that what we seek ... once we get it, we no longer are content with it. look for the seeker, the doer within who is so seeking. a game of hide & seek! :smile:

in choosing the more enduring & uplifting contemplate on what it is that may transition from the ephemeral to the eternal. find that. seek that. attain (be) that.

meanwhile, on a practical note, since our thoughts have limitations as long as there is a doer, a thinker thinking, connect to the Universe making the Universe Itself a co-conspirator to fulfill our desire. however, to do so, we must let go of the doer, the thinker, the desirer! :biggrin:

***

Shivani Devi 12-07-2019 03:49 AM

Last night, I couldn't sleep (when I usually oversleep for days on end).

I did not know what to do, so I listened to an audiobook, which takes less time, concentration and eyestrain than reading a tome of written text which gives me a migraine.

The book I chose this time..

"The Untethered Soul" by Michael A Singer.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OroxgsCsWWs

This book has so many good points, I will need to listen to it a few times before it all sinks in.

I have depression too...very BAD depression caused by a lifetime of seeking acceptance and approval for my own lifestyle "choice making". When I should have learned by now that "haters gonna hate" and it is such a pity that those who "hate" are also those who mean the most to me, like a partner, child, parent or significant other(s).

The messages one gets are always mixed and confusing: "Of course I love you....I just hate who you are and everything you do" and so, in the attempt to reconcile this conundrum internally, depression and anxiety often results.

As difficult as it is, depressed people NEED to be "selfish" and to stop living for others at the detriment of their own spiritual and emotional growth. I also realise that this flies totally in the face of everything we have ever learned...everything we are taught...i.e. "DON'T be selfish because it is wrong!" and "you must always put the needs of others before your own" however, according to Dr. Gabor Mate, putting others' needs before your own, is the leading cause of cancer and auto immune disease.

Often, we don't do those things we want to do, because we worry how it will affect other people, when it is our worry about HOW they will react, which always makes them do so in a predictable way for what we resist, persists.

We also give others ample opportunity to sabotage our dreams and goals by making them known too far in advance..which has the result of giving us ample time to second guess ourselves and talk ourselves out of all those things which have the potential to make us happy: "yes, they are totally right and I am wrong...how stupid of me to even think about that...much better to remain depressed and in bed...not doing anything which has the potential to upset another human being...safer that way..."

Unfortunately, it is your life...a life which needs to be lived on your terms..and of course, your choices will most likely alienate yourself from those you hold near and dear if they cannot accept you for who you consciously choose to be...so, instead of seeking approval and acceptance, start by doing what you enjoy..what makes you happy..and tell/trust NO-ONE, not even those negative "wet blankets" and "fun police" who masquerade as your friends, family and spiritual forum members who say "I am only saying it because I care"...rubbish! or else, they have no idea what it is to actually "care" or they would be more supportive and less judgmental.

In the end, you WILL find others who will accept you for who you are...those who have been through exactly the same thing and have given up all emotional attachments that have kept them inside a cage, when to be free, means giving up the life you have formerly known and everyone in it.

Good luck and God bless.

lomax 12-07-2019 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shivani Devi
Last night, I couldn't sleep (when I usually oversleep for days on end).

I did not know what to do, so I listened to an audiobook, which takes less time, concentration and eyestrain than reading a tome of written text which gives me a migraine.

The book I chose this time..

"The Untethered Soul" by Michael A Singer.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OroxgsCsWWs

This book has so many good points, I will need to listen to it a few times before it all sinks in.

I have depression too...very BAD depression caused by a lifetime of seeking acceptance and approval for my own lifestyle "choice making". When I should have learned by now that "haters gonna hate" and it is such a pity that those who "hate" are also those who mean the most to me, like a partner, child, parent or significant other(s).

The messages one gets are always mixed and confusing: "Of course I love you....I just hate who you are and everything you do" and so, in the attempt to reconcile this conundrum internally, depression and anxiety often results.

As difficult as it is, depressed people NEED to be "selfish" and to stop living for others at the detriment of their own spiritual and emotional growth. I also realise that this flies totally in the face of everything we have ever learned...everything we are taught...i.e. "DON'T be selfish because it is wrong!" and "you must always put the needs of others before your own" however, according to Dr. Gabor Mate, putting others' needs before your own, is the leading cause of cancer and auto immune disease.

Often, we don't do those things we want to do, because we worry how it will affect other people, when it is our worry about HOW they will react, which always makes them do so in a predictable way for what we resist, persists.

We also give others ample opportunity to sabotage our dreams and goals by making them known too far in advance..which has the result of giving us ample time to second guess ourselves and talk ourselves out of all those things which have the potential to make us happy: "yes, they are totally right and I am wrong...how stupid of me to even think about that...much better to remain depressed and in bed...not doing anything which has the potential to upset another human being...safer that way..."

Unfortunately, it is your life...a life which needs to be lived on your terms..and of course, your choices will most likely alienate yourself from those you hold near and dear if they cannot accept you for who you consciously choose to be...so, instead of seeking approval and acceptance, start by doing what you enjoy..what makes you happy..and tell/trust NO-ONE, not even those negative "wet blankets" and "fun police" who masquerade as your friends, family and spiritual forum members who say "I am only saying it because I care"...rubbish! or else, they have no idea what it is to actually "care" or they would be more supportive and less judgmental.

In the end, you WILL find others who will accept you for who you are...those who have been through exactly the same thing and have given up all emotional attachments that have kept them inside a cage, when to be free, means giving up the life you have formerly known and everyone in it.

Good luck and God bless.

Good post.

iamthat 12-07-2019 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unseeking Seeker
***

emotions being manifestations emanating from thought and then indulgence in the emotion reinforcing thought becomes a cycle whose root lies within our choice to indulge, to stagnate owing to delusional fear or desire, in that illusionary state.

this being so all we need to do is rotate polarity of thought and resultant emotion. depression to joy ... joy to depression ... depression to joy ... look at the rotation. it is a dance. do not fight it, just look at it. the emotions we do experience but we are flowing, essence of our presence is flowing, experiencing & observing. like a game!

more often than not, that what we seek ... once we get it, we no longer are content with it. look for the seeker, the doer within who is so seeking. a game of hide & seek! :smile:

in choosing the more enduring & uplifting contemplate on what it is that may transition from the ephemeral to the eternal. find that. seek that. attain (be) that.

meanwhile, on a practical note, since our thoughts have limitations as long as there is a doer, a thinker thinking, connect to the Universe making the Universe Itself a co-conspirator to fulfill our desire. however, to do so, we must let go of the doer, the thinker, the desirer! :biggrin:

***


It is easy to say that depression is an illusory emotional state, but if someone struggles with depression then that illusory emotional state is debilitating and dominates everyday life. We can affirm that we are not the doer or the thinker or the feeler, but we remain stuck in the state of depression.

If someone was physically ill with a fever and in pain then we could equally say that this is an illusory physical state. This may be true, but it impacts our ability to function on every level. We need to deal with the physical issue so we can then function normally. So it is with depression.

Peace.

BigJohn 13-07-2019 09:52 PM

Great advice!


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