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A Pilgrim travelled to the temple and stood before the statue of Shiva. The Warden came and said "It is our tradition that we do not point our feet towards Shiva". The Pilgrim replied "Certainly Sir if you will point to where Shiva is not".
This neatly sums up the difference between TA and NA. TA has conditions which have to be met including practise. NA has no conditions that have to be met including practise. Feel free to choose whatever suits you |
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Realization of this is not a condition. Hearing this the seeker may resonate with that idea:) I doubt if those who believe in realization would regard resonance as equivalent but lets see:) |
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It is said, in our faith, we must be respectful when worshiping Shiva, we must come after bathing, wearing our finest garments, speak low, softly, come in the spirit of humility...yada...yada... I worship Shiva totally naked, covered in ash and shout "Hara Hara Mahadev!" dancing about ecstatically. There is no place Shiva is not, but by the same token, it ain't like He hasn't seen our toes, the soles of our feet...nor our bare bottom, genital regions...He is responsible for all of that...so what is there to hide? what is there to be humble about? what is there to disrespect? What is there to question? to even have to think about? I love that tale you told and thank you...it has opened my heart a bit more today. |
A prior, related post:
*Links underlined* I do understand why so called "NA" tries to set up a NA v "Anyone else" context as - either: it's because TA is jealous of us! - or it's West v East - or it just depends on your personality to the probably most honest answer I have seen in my viewpoint: NA suits people who are tired of being told they are not good enough and want self assurance that they have, without any work on their part, "arrived") - and most recently, [color="Blue"]anger at the tried and tested way - the wish to dethrone (lol renegade!) + NA is a rebellion against the "totalitarian" regime of Advaita-Vedanta (whoah that's a new one!) :confused: + we need to defend ourselves against the mad persecution of Advaita-Vedanta and other dangerous traditionalists. Because that gives them, like e.g. a Church of Scientology, an assumption of legitimacy and equivalence. There is no equivalence, however in my opinion (rationale below), and why it should be seen at best as a dabbling exercise. Furthermore, its utility is diminished not only through its stature as a relative imposter, in my opinion, but in the rare admission that its followers have fundamentally not found true joy, compassion or Gnosis evident in so many other traditions. This is only to be expected in such a course. Here's a prior post of mine which encapsulates how I see this topic (below). I hope you find it useful to understand my perspective (and hopefully this time you will not try to again incite the Board and forum participants to try to cast me as an abuser - quite a dishonest and unkind tactic IMO - in your desperate attempts to shut down discussion and review. Be well :smile: Quote:
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"so what is there to hide? what is there to be humble about? what is there to disrespect? What is there to question? to even have to think about?" Practise apparently:) |
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Despite what myself or anybody else says on here in any way/shape or form, Shiva has totally stolen my heart! and that's something I don't need to think about or question either. It just is...what it is...Brahman or no Brahman...duality or no duality....all that doesn't matter or make any difference to it. |
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It’s too late. The seeker is already practicing - even those who insist that they are not. If you are a seeker, you are practicing. Your practice may consist of attending Tony Parsons (and others) meetings, buying books and watching YouTube videos - oh, and posting on forums. This is a 21st century sadhana (whether or not it is effective is another matter.) |
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There is a difference between seeking and practising. Seeking may merely be considering all that is on offer to see what suits them if any. That consideration may result in selecting a practise, or an idea that involves no practise whatsoever of which, as far as I know, there is only one, popularly and affectionately known as NA :) :) :) |
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