How do you lift the amnesia? How do you 'awaken from your sleep'?
Good question, eh? :tongue:
Me? Asking....sitting in silence, otherwise called deep, long meditation. (Also, ACIM, A Course in Miracles). Ultimately ---it happens because of Grace ----from my experience! (ACIM would call that the intervention of the Holy Spirit helping with a mind shift.) ~J? You pretty much already answered! |
Hello Miss H.
Realizing I wasn't asleep or didn't have amnesia to start with...I only thought that I was/did, but I was mistaken. Realizing that others can be just as mistaken as I am. Knowing that the Tao which can be spoken isn't the Tao unless it isn't being spoken because the one who speaks isn't the speaker. ...and Grace, of course which I should really stop taking for granted. Aum Shanti |
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You're on a roll ... :smile: |
It's like watching a movie (reading a book, playing a video game, ...). We get engrossed in the plot, forget who we are, then live vicariously through the movie's characters.
If somebody turns on the light we pop out of trance, remember who we are, and why we are watching this movie (a.k.a. get enlightened). Our subconscious can turn on the light, so we should nicely ask it to do that. It works with phone ringing too ... :smile: Pretty much as you wrote in your opening post. |
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Never thought about it. |
How do we awaken from our sleep?
This was a central theme of Gurdjieff: Man is immersed in dreams... He lives in sleep… He is a machine. He cannot stop the flow of his thoughts, he cannot control his imagination, his emotions, his attention... He does not see the real world. The real world is hidden from him by the wall of imagination. In order to awaken, first of all one must realize that one is in a state of sleep. And in order to realize that one is indeed in a state of sleep, one must recognize and fully understand the nature of the forces which operate to keep one in the state of sleep, or hypnosis. It is absurd to think that this can be done by seeking information from the very source which induces the hypnosis. ....One thing alone is certain, that man's slavery grows and increases. Man is becoming a willing slave. He no longer needs chains. He begins to grow fond of his slavery, to be proud of it. And this is the most terrible thing that can happen to a man. Awakening is possible only for those who seek it and want it, for those who are ready to struggle with themselves and work on themselves for a very long time and very persistently in order to attain it. So how do we wake up? From beingpresent.org Self-remembering is the central idea of the Fourth Way. In Gurdjieff’s cosmology, the birthright of a human being is to be awake but the psychological condition of sleep prevents it. Because of this condition, humanity is uninterested in awakening, and if a human-being discovers they are ‘asleep’, they will find an excuse to forget or deny it. So Gurdjieff taught self-remembering as an experiment to demonstrate its value and as a way of life. He taught his students the difference between being ‘asleep’ and being ‘awake’. He taught self-remembering as a continual, practical effort, bringing one’s attention to one’s Self at the same time as the activity that one is engaged in. Peace |
Wow, I forgot I started this thread...thank you thank you for all your posts!!!!! :hug:
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Just getting in contact with your subconscious suffices. And it helps to put aside your beliefs and expectations when you do that. |
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