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skygazer 07-11-2014 01:18 AM

reincarnation and the body
 
Are the spirits of loved ones who appear in NDE's, guide us to crossover or communicate with mediums not yet reincarnated?
or
Once a spirit has reincarnated is it no longer able to be accessed by mediums or available to help crossover a loved one?
or
Can a spirit be in a new body while her/his old body is still making appearances to the living?

yumi14 07-11-2014 03:24 AM

Good questions. Interesting thread. I look forward to reading what people say :-)

vespa68 07-11-2014 09:50 AM

Just thinking that people dont usually reincarnate that quickly. Also, in soul groups they wait for each other to finish their mission before reincarnating again.

sunbeam 07-11-2014 11:05 AM

Hi Vespa68.
I've researched this a lot and found that only a small part of your soul actually comes into a physical body.
A small part that separates from the higher self.
It's totally possible to have more than one life at a time.
I know that I currently have another life on Copenhagen, she's in her early 20's now, I'm 36.
I do also have another life that's ongoing at the moment but it's not on this planet.
So, yep, loved ones can meet you when you return home, even if they have incarnated again. And yes mediums can contact people who have crossed over, even if they have also incarnated again.

Checkmate. 07-11-2014 12:22 PM

I agree with sunbeam. The ''you'' here is just a small part of a much larger spirit, so yep totally possible.

skygazer 07-11-2014 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by sunbeam
Hi Vespa68.

It's totally possible to have more than one life at a time.


that is not what the question was...

to be having more than one life at same time is a given, but those lives are not in identical bodies.
my question is specifically about the material body.
it requires us to go further in our thinking....

desert rat 07-11-2014 11:46 PM

I think only thoes souls that have not reincarnated yet will be able to meet you during an n.d.e.

vespa68 08-11-2014 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sunbeam
Hi Vespa68.
I've researched this a lot and found that only a small part of your soul actually comes into a physical body.
A small part that separates from the higher self.
It's totally possible to have more than one life at a time.
I know that I currently have another life on Copenhagen, she's in her early 20's now, I'm 36.
I do also have another life that's ongoing at the moment but it's not on this planet.
So, yep, loved ones can meet you when you return home, even if they have incarnated again. And yes mediums can contact people who have crossed over, even if they have also incarnated again.


Actually I have read a lot on this too and it seems what I have read differs from what you have researched. I do know that we do leave part of our soul behind but this depends on our mission. What I understood is its usually only a small part we leave behind. The bigger our mission the more we need our energy here. Healers for example need most of their energy here. Also I read that it is very rare for us to split our soul in more than one incarnation.

SemperVI 08-11-2014 06:36 PM

I have done a fair amount of research on this subject matter and their is no one right answer to your questions. The truth regarding this is ultimately found within your understanding and perspective from which you believe.

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Originally Posted by skygazer
Are the spirits of loved ones who appear in NDE's, guide us to crossover or communicate with mediums not yet reincarnated?


From my perspective and understanding - the answer to this is absolutely!. As @Sunbeam suggested - "only a small part of your soul actually comes into a physical body". In my opinion this is completely accurate.

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Originally Posted by skygazer
Once a spirit has reincarnated is it no longer able to be accessed by mediums or available to help crossover a loved one?


To further understand the eternal soul/spirit relationship - consider this. The soul is the sum of all spiritual experience. The spiritual experience is the sum of a specific life experience incarnate. Accordingly, the spirit of an incarnation exists eternally through the soul. Because of this - the spirit of an incarnation can be made available for commentary just as "your own" past life incarnation can be made available for experience and/or commentary.

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Originally Posted by skygazer
Can a spirit be in a new body while her/his old body is still making appearances to the living?


Short answer - of course :-)

I have successfully performed multiple past life regressions and read multiple books on the subject matter. This by no means makes me an expert, but it has compelled me to mediate on this quite often and does form the basis for an opinion. I have come to the conclusion that indeed each incarnation I experienced is a unique existence. I - "Semper" will only experience one physical incarnation. It is only through my soul (a super-self if you will) other instances of incarnation are exposed to me. In fact - I believe the term "reincarnation" only muddy's the water in understanding this topic because it is not what I believe is actually happening but this is another conversation all together

My point is - the spirit is instantiated from the soul. It is therefore a separate incarnation with a separate spirit, with a separate life experience unique to that incarnation. The truth of the matter is - those incarnations are not your's or mine, they are the providence of "God", the soul and spiritual experience of that incarnation. Perhaps it is in this understanding why we have "free-will." We only call them "ours" because we are fortunate to experience these life experiences (incarnations) through the soul (higher self by proxy). The spiritual experience "I am" now living is mine to do with as I will and does not belong to a past life I experienced in the 1900s or 1700s or even the middle ages, no more than those incarnate spirits I was fortunate enough to experience belong to me. Those incarnations were a separate spiritual existence and experience unique to itself. The commonality between one spiritual experience and another is only revealed through a common source of origin. I perceive this as nothing more than spiritual reality :-)

At the end of the day none of it really matters much. What matters is what we do with this information we gain through these other incarnations we have all experienced. The other life's I have experienced can only provide insight and perspective. However; I can actually do something meaningful with this life! This is the spiritual experience from which I will add to the sum of my soul understanding, just as is with your spiritual experience and your soul understanding. My ambition and motivation is to have a positive impact, to not diminish the efforts and gains other incarnations have had on my soul understanding and perhaps provide positive perspective and helpful insight for future incarnations just as the past spiritual experiences have provided insight for me.

skygazer 10-11-2014 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SemperVI

To further understand the eternal soul/spirit relationship - consider this. The soul is the sum of all spiritual ....


What you refer to as the soul is what I call the oversoul.
When I said "soul" I meant the individual spirit.


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