Is it possle that you AP and you dont know?
I remember posting several months back about something that I wasn’t sure if it was OBE or lucid dreaming. I haven’t had many experiences after this. May be I blocked out because of fear.
Recently I have been visiting this sub forum often and read about peoples' experiences just out of curiosity and interest. couple of days back, in the middle of my sleep I was conscious I was flying and an immediate thought stuck that I should take some proof (in that deep sleep ) and then I came down to a parking lot bunch of cars, I told in my mind I want to look at the number plate of the red Ferrari, then I immediately was taken behind the vehicle I also saw the number 4420 and I was repeating to myself I should remember this and took few seconds looking at the number plate, when I woke up I remembered the number but not other details on that number plate; which obviously I wasn't noticing carefully. when this was happening it was like a small tornado I don’t know if it light or air, around me, I did not feel like a body though, like I was seeing through a long distance binoculars (like that one pirates have) only that it was a rotating energy not an object literally. But I wasn’t sure if it’s just a dream based on all that I read here, or I come to know about AP or was it real? |
I'll repeat my answer as you have repeated a question:
OBE and Lucid Dreaming is the same as Astral Projection, people AP all the time whether it's consciously, subconsciously, or unconsciously, majority of people do it unconsciously, the goal is for everyone to be able to do it consciously. It's all by choice though, so fears and public paranoia keeps people from freedom. |
Lucid dreaming is an acquirable skill so it's very likely that people do project in ignorance. However from your description I do not know what you are talking about. There are times when you are asleep physically and mentally, although you will function in the astral plane as if you are awake. You will act and think with understanding, logic, rationale, and purpose, but you won't actually be conscious unless you will it so (at this stage it's easier to remember the dream and wake up in it). However based on definitions, this is not "projecting without knowing". This is being asleep but acting as if you are conscious.
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this sounds to me like an OBE, which is what we do every night while we sleep, just that we arent always aware of this fact...lucid dreaming is also an OBE, there is no such thing as "just a dream" however, id like to point out, that all OBE's are not astral projection as there are several planes within, not just the astral, so you may well have projected beyond the astral...
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In short: yes.
But you need to be in a certain frame of mind to be completely unconscious or oblivious to the fact that your not in your body anymore. Lucid dreams are easy to separate from astral because you can control what happens there. If you want something, think of it materializing in front of you while you think your in a dream, if it happens then its a dream. If it doesn't then pinch yourself, if you feel no pain and your hand goes through where your arm is meant to be, its most likely an AP. Though these aren't full proof methods, it works for a lot of people. |
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