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gravitysrainbow 09-12-2014 09:00 PM

Reasoning behind abductions
 
So, why are people abducted? I do not believe that if there was an advanced race of aliens that they would have no reverence for life and deliberately harm and experiment on humans. A spiritually and intellectually advanced human would not experiment on animals. And, in the end, we are all the same - beings of light put into physical form. At least with this reasoning, they can't be abducting people to harm them. So what other conclusions can we make? Are abductees being selected to be socially integrated with alien races? Is there a spiritual reason behind abduction? Please share your thoughts, theories, etc.

skygazer 10-12-2014 02:45 AM

Humans who are considered "intellectually advanced" experiment on animals all the time. Chimps are sent into space, make up is tested on the eyes of animals, and dog breeders are always experimenting with selective breeding. Why does it happen?

I suspect there could be many reasons for human abductions but not any would be for spiritual reasons, and the reason will depend on who is doing the abducting. We seem to be fair game down here on Earth, and much depends on our lineage.
It's my understanding that everyone is abducted at regular intervals through out their life, primarily for upkeep, but many of these abductions are to our astral bodies, not all incidents end with our bodies floating out a window.

Such a complex subject, so much to be said. I may chime in again later.

Everly 10-12-2014 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by skygazer
Humans who are considered "intellectually advanced" experiment on animals all the time. Chimps are sent into space, make up is tested on the eyes of animals, and dog breeders are always experimenting with selective breeding. Why does it happen?


Exactly! What a shame that we aren't more spiritually advanced.

Element 5 12-12-2014 08:54 PM

I tend to believe there are various reasons why we are taken...both physical and spiritual. I have had abduction experiences, and while most of them feel dream like, I have to note that most of the activity included what I felt like was an upgrade to my spiritual development. I'm open to all sorts of possibilities because I find that I don't have any proof, if only proof for myself, of any of the things that have happened to me.

fall-sky 13-12-2014 05:30 PM

I think all abductions are psychological, although I know they are traumatizing to the abductees.

The abductions that happen while people are sleeping are probably hypnogogic hallucinations. People don't understand that hallucinations feel just like reality, so they dismiss this explanation too quickly.

I watched a youtube interview of Betty Hill, one of the most famous abductees, and after 30 minutes I began to realize that she was delusional. I have read that Barney Hill was skeptical about the abduction and only went along with the idea to humor his wife. So much for the most famous abduction case.

On the other hand, the Pascagoula abduction case seems more persuasive to me (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascagoula_Abduction). Maybe they really encountered aliens. There were two people abducted together which probably rules-out hallucination.

Another idea is that people encounter aliens, but the experience is so mind-boggling that they invent bizarre experiences to fill the gaps. Maybe the aliens simply get within a certain distance, and that person's mind begins hallucinating.

Astral Jane 28-12-2014 09:20 PM

No they were not all psychological, not by a long shot. There was a psy-ops to make people believe they had been abducted,obviously this was largely successful, and the reason was to discredit anyone who claimed to have been abducted.

The perpetrators were not new to the planet, not by a long shot. They did it as a deal, as a contract, as an exchange. Please do your research. These answers are publicly available and no one here got it anywhere close to right. As usual YT is the best source but often those videos are also posted on individual sites.

The abductions have ended; the perpetrators were quarantined. They were done for biological reasons and survival motives. One of the most important implications of Jesus' teachings is that not everyone gets everlasting life.

durgaa 28-12-2014 11:42 PM

Like humans, there are aliens who are good and bad too. l can't be arbitrary or dogmatic about this subject, but l have done a fair bit of research.
l don't think hypnagogic images come even close what a lot of abductees describe. lt's the same when ppl have visions or out-of-body experiences; the psychiatrists are too ready to call it 'Hallucinaton'. l think a lot of abductions in the bedroom are happening at an astral level, with a lot of shapeshifting going on by God knows what. But, ths doesn't explain the mass of abductions taking place in the wide-awake state and out of doors. lt wouldn't surprise me if there's a huge collaboration between world governments a certain alien races - or that some abductions are nothing to do with aliens at all. The Archons seem to be a popular theme at the moment.
l think the work of Eve Lorgen and some others might be closer to the truth. She also discusses the 'Alien Love Bite' in connection with abductee's - she's written two books on this subject.
There is a pile of conspiracy garbage out there and you need to be careful, but l found eve to be more believable than most.
These are her qualifications (although l'm not sure there are any real qualifications for hypnotherapy); she's done quite a few radio interviews on youtube about abductions, milabs etc. and she's a good speaker.

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Eve Lorgen is a dedicated counselling professional for experiencers of anomalous trauma and one of the world's leading researchers on UFO/alien abductions. She holds a Bachelors of Science Degree in Biochemistry, Masters in Counselling Psychology, Certified Hypnotherapist and has studied Shamanism

Here's one lnterview called 'The Alien Agenda'

http://youtu.be/SGgXzc1nt0o

durgaa 29-12-2014 04:43 PM

One interesting thing that eve lorgen says in the above interview is that 'meth-amphetamine' opens the doorway to reptilians and other aliens (mostly reptilians) and it turns people into sex and porns addicts, which these reptilian (or whatever they are behind the mask, perhaps) feed off.

xxLoveLifexx 14-01-2015 12:11 PM

The classical abduction is the fear based interpretation and experience. Most typically samples are taken from people who agreed to that on a soul level. It's just one part of something much bigger we OURSELVES are working out, it's not done to us, deep down we really know what we are doing.

Nimue 15-01-2015 07:33 AM

We give them people... they give us technology/

Many believe that some form of enlightenment comes after Contact with these beings... are they activating our DNA blueprint, removing blockages/imprints..?


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