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evariste 06-01-2018 10:59 PM

what is happening to me ~ please help!
 
I have been experiencing something very strange which I cannot explain. I have been very thoughtful about it as well as prayerful, but none of my higher powers have revealed to me what is going on.

Recently (in the last year) I have been experiencing what I can only explain as energy vampirism. I have had three people come into my life who I feel utterly drained by. The first was a friend who I would also cuddle with/nap with sometimes. I noticed that after spending more than a few hours with him I began to feel incredibly drained. One time I actually fell asleep and took a nap with him and when I woke up I almost felt sucked dry. I had a lot of anxiety from feeling so incredibly weak and drained of mental power and began to distance myself from him after. I wouldn't say he was particularly clingy or needy, just a massive energy drain.

The next was a boyfriend I had for only about 3 months. I would again feel sucked dry of my energy after spending a day or night together. Spending an entire night sleeping together was especially draining. I eventually broke it off and one big reason was this energy transfer.

The third and most recent is my current boyfriend. We have been together about 8 months. At first I didn't notice anything but now it turns out he is the worst of them all. If energy were blood I feel like I have all but a few drops left after we spend any considerable amount of time together. If it is two or three days I almost feel dead. With him the energy drain is so bad that I have a fuzzy mind and think slowly when I'm with him because my mental energy is sapped. Among the three he does exhibit some off-behavior. He is obsessed with any kind of almost constant body contact, holding my hand, ect. At night I call him the octopus, because he manages to always find his way to my side of the bed in the middle of the night and wrap his extremities around me. I know enough about energy work that he also seems to unknowingly target my energy centers. He always puts his hands on my mid-back (spine), the top of my head, my heart and groin. He also puts his bare feet on top of my feet. It's actually creepy because he does this subconsciously. He will promise to stay on "his side" of the bed at night but in the middle of the night crawls over to me. I have awoken multiple times to find the palm of his hand out flat directly above my head like he is plugged into my crown chakra and sucking me dry. I have tried to talk to him about all this but he just laughs and has no point of reference to energy or metaphysical things. I am white and he is Korean... don't know if that plays into it. Also, all of these men have been shorter and smaller than me.

I wonder if the difference in size and energy levels means I lose my energy and they gain it because science says energy always goes from a higher to lower state. The weird thing is this has never happened to me before and now it has gotten so bad that it is literally interfering with my life. I don't especially want to break up with my current boyfriend but I have no other choice if this continues. Does anyone have any insight into what is going on or what could fix it?! I feel cursed, almost like Rogue from X-men except the exact opposite of her problem. She sucks the energy out where as I get the energy sucked out of me. I just want to know how to explain all of this. Recently I've been reading historical Chinese texts about yin/yang, and qi (vital essence). I get the impression that the wrong combination of elements in two people can end up in a draining dynamic like this. One final note, not sure if it has to do with this, but my grandmother has talked about her grandpa several times to me, that he was some kind of folk healer (from Poland). She said verbatim that when he laid his hands on people they would become healed... one example was when he laid hands on people with broken bones and they became instantly healed.

Any insight/advice/intuition GREATLY appreciated as I feel like I'm being drained of my life.

OEN34 07-01-2018 09:25 AM

Have you considered that it might be an issue on your side? That something subconsciously (or consciously) is causing this energy depletion?

Your latest boyfriend sounds rather attached/clingy to the reader, but it's also very hard to be accurate of his nature without knowing him, or seeing you both. He may just be tactile, but if he's too much for you - too tactile - too clingy - then have a word with him and ask him to ease off a bit? Have you done that, and if so, what was his reaction?

You also refer to feeling energy depleted after waking up, which is par for the course for most as you've been at rest, or in your case getting hands all over your face all night :D so you will be tired.

Having said that, I do relate to you to some degree. I too feel drained after spending too much time with some people (most, actually), so having my own space is imperative. It is very easy for others to say ''If the relationship is right you should never want to be alone'', but to me that screams insecurity/neediness as your own time is vital for growth, it's just most people aren't on the same path as us and are not in touch with their own energy and intuition, thus are unaware of their feeling.

But it does sound rather labored and draining. I do think his hand positioning has nothing to do with your energy depletion - he's more than likely not aware he is even doing it.

Perhaps reduce your time together? Don't spend large amount of time together in one go. Reduce the number of days you see each other, and even contact.

I know since embarking on my journey I was seeing a lady who I connect with and on the whole, enjoyed her company. But I too felt drained sometimes after seeing her for a substantial amount of time, but I realised it was from me due to my sensitivity to energy around me - she was just being herself - so I asked for some time alone and reduced seeing her as much.

Spirituality really does produce heightened sensitivity levels in some - myself included, so it is really important to give yourself personal time alone to rest and recover.

But yes, I'd reduce the time together and then you'll also see if he really is clingy and needy, or if he'll be okay with it, as if he's coming from a true place, he will be absolutely fine with the time apart and honor your request (if that is what you want to do).

Go steady

C

longTime 07-01-2018 10:19 PM

Hi
This phenomenon that you described is possible, and there are healing methods that can take care of it remotely. Several years ago I connected one of my friends to such healer and it was very successful, although they were in different continents. If you are interested in such possibility, please PM me and I'll provide you the contact info
best

happyhorse 07-01-2018 10:37 PM

I have started to "show" or being aware of when I notice people doing this. Some are just wanting to connect physically for bonding, but some do it as they have a lack of own energy. You need to show that it's not OK, by moving away and thus creating a physical sign that what they are doing is not appreciated, and they get aware of what they are doing. But only if you really feel that you know what is going on, and I'm pretty sure that you do as you describe what is happening in so much detail. I can really relate to what you are writing.

After that you have shown enough times that you don't appreciate their behavior, either they will find that you are hurting their feelings (not your problem in this case), and either change their behavior or stop seeing you. Emotionally, this kind of people behave like dogs, not to be demeaning in any way, just to give you some plattform to understand why they do as they do, and how you can act to encourage a certain behavior (that don't suck the energy out of you).

You have already pointed out that he has a problem, but he won't accept it. There is not more you can do to help him (sorry I am maybe a bit codependent so don't buy into my thinking that everyone should be helped ;) ). I have learned that my energy is sacred and no-one is allowed to snitch from it. If you don't have your own, start doing some work on getting more, it's not my job to share it with you.

If the situation is unbearable you maybe should consider ending the relationship.

The question why you are attracted to those kind of guys - maybe can be because that you also have some codependent tendencies (good book on the matter - codependent no more). But that is hard for someone else who don't know you to understand. Try meditate and sit with the question for a while and answers will pop-up. As it have happened for all you last three guys, maybe it's a pattern, maybe not. If it is, it's because something in your subconscious programming is driving you towards it, some part of you that isn't healed are leading you toward unhealthy behavior. As I said, it's not sure it's a pattern, but it could be. Sitting and meditating on a certain problem and just listening to answers that come by themselves is often rewarding for me, and I could really recommend it.

Best of luck! Keep your energy for yourself, and keep us posted.

//Happyhorse

truth seeker 08-01-2018 10:47 PM

First be aware that most energy vampires are not really aware of it and they do it unconsciously... don t take it personally with them.... maybe thats they way to cry for help.

second thing it might be from your side.. that those people only telling you that you need to center yourself and balance your system.... doing spiritual practices without a good master can shift your energy to new levels and form and open new doors for you ... you might be extra sensitive and open stronger cords with people you love.

third if you have sympathy in a wrong way towered them. (unhealthy one comes from ego side) it allow your system to give them energy cuz u feel bad about them for example or you think they deserve better life.

finally remember everything we do is by our choice. if you want to change and stop letting ppl do it just make a strong conscious choice about it. and as i understood 3 of them are really close to you.... so you open up too much to them on energy levels...maybe out of comfort or love ... or whatever is your reasons...start from this point and it will lead you to solve your situation.

all best for you

evariste 10-01-2018 06:49 PM

@ truth seeker

thank you for your response... it resonated with me the most. I am going to do some soul searching with your points in mind.

Eden Workshops 12-01-2018 11:28 AM

Hello

It may be that the people you feel drained by are what William Blake called "devourers", thinkers with repressed emotional needs, in which case you need to ask yourself why are you drawn to such men, or why were such men attracted to you?

Good Luck.

Richard

pluralone 12-01-2018 09:20 PM

@evariste
Excellent discussion! My first thoughts were much like those already expressed here, that the issue may be more about you than about those by whom you feel depleted.

If it was me, first and foremost I'd back off to catch my breath and regroup.

To regroup, I'd spend as much time alone as I needed, doing grounding and centering meditations as well as allowing time for just sitting and being open to the answer of the question, "What do I need to know at this time that will be most beneficial?" I've found that asking a more general question like this can bring much deeper answers to my immediate issues than if I ask something more specific.

I would also meditate on the concept of self protection so as to find a way to keep my own energy rather than sharing it with (or having it drained by) others. When I first did this - because I was experiencing intrusive energies - I simply constructed an 'energy shield' around myself. The 'shield' has changed considerably over time, but at the beginning what I most needed was a simple energetic block to incoming energies, but it also served to prevent the loss of my own energy. Nothing came in or went out unless I allowed it. Construction of such a shield is really easy to do; I think the hardest part (which also isn't difficult) is finding the construction strategy that works best for you personally.

One last thought: While I do think it's probable that the issue is within yourself rather than an external circumstance, I would strongly recommend that if you think so too, please don't give in to feeling guilty or 'at fault'. For that matter, if you find that the issue is a matter of the type of person you attract or something like that, I think this too doesn't merit guilty feelings. It is what it is, whatever it is. It seems this is just where you are on your path. Obstacles arise, and many of us just figure out the best strategy for moving forward whether it means removing the obstacle, climbing over it or going around or under it. It's the experience itself and learning from it that matters the most... or, that's how I see it anyway.

Please keep us posted as you work through this. Wishing you the best.
-plur

truth seeker 15-01-2018 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by evariste
@ truth seeker

thank you for your response... it resonated with me the most. I am going to do some soul searching with your points in mind.

welcome.

good luck with your life experience. keep us posted how things is going.

if you need anything we are here

love

Dee47 09-02-2018 03:32 AM

I've had something similar to this happen to me. One thing I found helpful was to visualize my energy field, and to heal areas that had holes in them. Pluralone mentions forming a shield,, and I did something like that, too. I also cut cords, but I don't really understand that very much, though I think that helped the most.

SpiritofZoe 13-02-2018 02:54 PM

The mood and assumptions of reactions such as this- and the OP's, the whole idea of easily labeling your own good friends and lovers as "energy vampires" without realizing that, if that does happen to hurt their feelings, then, well, maybe that is your problem. What do you get out of it? A feeling of control and influence over others where you are only secure if it seems they are jealous of you or demanding of you? A feeling of security and self-justification and validation when you can call others clingy and feel like you are sought-after?
OP, Why does the current BF have so little awareness that this contact is bothering you? Aren't you & Happyhorse when they're in the same situation - putting out the signals to elicit and approve of this to some degree?
No one tries to snitch another's energy like a burglar breaking into a house. They are just doing what they learned; they came from a particular environment where people affected each other, demanded from each other, controlled, and taught kids (mostly unconsciously, by example) how to try to get their own needs met. Then kids reach adolescence and young adulthood and attract certain vibes of people to them to replay certain patterns that the higher self wants to have to reveal its own insecurities and room for growth.

Quote:

Originally Posted by happyhorse
I have started to "show" or being aware of when I notice people doing this. Some are just wanting to connect physically for bonding, but some do it as they have a lack of own energy. You need to show that it's not OK, by moving away and thus creating a physical sign that what they are doing is not appreciated, and they get aware of what they are doing. But only if you really feel that you know what is going on, and I'm pretty sure that you do as you describe what is happening in so much detail. I can really relate to what you are writing.

After that you have shown enough times that you don't appreciate their behavior, either they will find that you are hurting their feelings (not your problem in this case), and either change their behavior or stop seeing you. Emotionally, this kind of people behave like dogs, not to be demeaning in any way, just to give you some plattform to understand why they do as they do, and how you can act to encourage a certain behavior (that don't suck the energy out of you).

You have already pointed out that he has a problem, but he won't accept it. There is not more you can do to help him (sorry I am maybe a bit codependent so don't buy into my thinking that everyone should be helped ;) ). I have learned that my energy is sacred and no-one is allowed to snitch from it. If you don't have your own, start doing some work on getting more, it's not my job to share it with you.

If the situation is unbearable you maybe should consider ending the relationship.

The question why you are attracted to those kind of guys - maybe can be because that you also have some codependent tendencies (good book on the matter - codependent no more). But that is hard for someone else who don't know you to understand. Try meditate and sit with the question for a while and answers will pop-up. As it have happened for all you last three guys, maybe it's a pattern, maybe not. If it is, it's because something in your subconscious programming is driving you towards it, some part of you that isn't healed are leading you toward unhealthy behavior. As I said, it's not sure it's a pattern, but it could be. Sitting and meditating on a certain problem and just listening to answers that come by themselves is often rewarding for me, and I could really recommend it.

Best of luck! Keep your energy for yourself, and keep us posted.

//Happyhorse


evariste 19-02-2018 12:51 AM

Haven't posted to this forum in a while but I have been experiencing the same problem as first posted :( It's been entirely perplexing. I've gotten a lot of feedback here and in another section I posted, but nothing is quite on the money. If I spend more than a few hours around my boyfriend I still feel the symptoms. Maybe I will go into more details... 1) completely drained, like I had almost all of the life force energy sucked out of my being 2) my skin/body feels warm and nervy/irritable, almost like a certain feeling I associate with the flu (sometimes when I get the flu my skin feels nervy and when I take a shower and the water hits my skin it is almost painful... reminds me of that). 3) very un-grounded. I have been earthing and using an earthing mat for over a year and can't live without them now. After being with my boyfriend it is like the opposite feeling of being earthed. I feel a nasty static-y charge, almost like a current was being run through my body all night. Similar feeling to experiencing too many EMFs from cell phone, ect. 4) Mental drain and brainfog. To the extent that I have a difficult time functioning for the remainder of the day after he leaves, and cannot do normal tasks. Also my text messages will become littered with spelling errors. 5) Sometimes it is as if my joints have aged and are somewhat arthritic.... Still asking, what is going on?! I am not buying the emotional/psychological/codependency theory at ALL (@SpiritofZoe, OEN34, happyhorse). I was raised by a mental health therapist, know healthy boundaries, etc. This feel more like a purely energy thing. Interestingly enough I am taking a class on supernatural Chinese literature, and recently there has been a lot of material about this notion they used to have about either women (yin) or ghosts (very yin) sucking the male lifeforce energy (yang) out of the man in the story and killing him or nearly killing him. Sometimes when I've read these stories, they go into great detail about the experience and I'm thinking, "That's me!" hahaha. The catch is, me and my boyfriend are both men :) So according to that theory, would be 2 yang energies and no yin around to drain us. The other thing I've been researching is this notion in traditional Chinese medicine about the unique elemental personalities we each have. I am definitely mostly earth and water. I would say my boyfriend is fire. I don't know how that would make such a huge difference. This is all so "out there" for me. I wouldn't actually believe this stuff unless I was so desperate for an explanation. I am afraid this relationship is literally killing me by slowly draining my lifeforce energy which cannot be replaced. :'( The problem is I can't just throw my boyfriend away, he is such a good guy and loving. I have prayed many times to my "guides" and guardian angel. No clear answer. It's like a "figure it out for yourself" situation.

OEN34 19-02-2018 08:05 AM

Two options IMO:

1) If it is that draining and you are convinced it isn't a psychological issue causing these symptoms, then end the relationship and be free from it.

2) Continue with the relationship but try even harder to work on yourself adapting to the symptoms.

On one hand you're saying the relationship is literally killing you slowly (quote), yet on the other you're saying you cannot end the relationship.

What gives? You can't have your cake and eat it.

He might be the most kind, gentle and loving person in the world, but if the energy isn't matched and it's causing you issues to the point you're miserable and drained around him, then the answer is very clear IMO.

Alternatively, look at diet, water consumption, vitamins and minerals, adequate rest etc.

evariste 19-02-2018 09:40 PM

@OEN34

I'm just hoping someone comes along and says, "Ahah, that's (insert energy explanation that makes sense), here's how to fix it." OR, if they were to say, "Ohhh... that's (alternate energy explanation), you're doomed," if it finally made sense to me what the root problem was and I believed it it would give me the confidence to end it immediately. But ending an entire relationship without knowing why I'm really doing it (just based on symptoms), seems to me like saying some body part hurts so it's best to cut it off (without even a proper diagnoses). I'm on this message board looking for a diagnoses I guess.

I've searched the internet as well... apparently this problem is quite rare, as I haven't seen a directly similar case, just some energy vampire stuff which has a similar flavor but not precisely the same as what I'm experiencing. :(

OEN34 19-02-2018 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by evariste
@OEN34

I'm just hoping someone comes along and says, "Ahah, that's (insert energy explanation that makes sense), here's how to fix it." OR, if they were to say, "Ohhh... that's (alternate energy explanation), you're doomed," if it finally made sense to me what the root problem was and I believed it it would give me the confidence to end it immediately. But ending an entire relationship without knowing why I'm really doing it (just based on symptoms), seems to me like saying some body part hurts so it's best to cut it off (without even a proper diagnoses). I'm on this message board looking for a diagnoses I guess.

I've searched the internet as well... apparently this problem is quite rare, as I haven't seen a directly similar case, just some energy vampire stuff which has a similar flavor but not precisely the same as what I'm experiencing. :(


Others have chipped in, but it seems you're looking for something that is in-explainable.

There may not be a proper diagnosis. You're very aware and have have very fine, accurate details to a tee, so if they're there, they're there. It is what it is.

It's a case of like it or lump it, unfortunately :biggrin:

Oh, and I'd absolutely end a relationship if it was causing me huge discomfort like you say, even without a diagnosis.

SpiritofZoe 27-02-2018 03:26 PM

I just hope you realize there are many many possibilities for the cause of your symptoms, all of which have NOTHING to do with an intimate relationship. It comes from the environment, the air, water, food as well as energy, EMF, scalar energy, mind programming, all part of an agenda to have an unhealthy population.

Quote:

Originally Posted by evariste
Haven't posted to this forum in a while but I have been experiencing the same problem as first posted :( It's been entirely perplexing. I've gotten a lot of feedback here and in another section I posted, but nothing is quite on the money. If I spend more than a few hours around my boyfriend I still feel the symptoms. Maybe I will go into more details... 1) completely drained, like I had almost all of the life force energy sucked out of my being 2) my skin/body feels warm and nervy/irritable, almost like a certain feeling I associate with the flu (sometimes when I get the flu my skin feels nervy and when I take a shower and the water hits my skin it is almost painful... reminds me of that). 3) very un-grounded. I have been earthing and using an earthing mat for over a year and can't live without them now. After being with my boyfriend it is like the opposite feeling of being earthed. I feel a nasty static-y charge, almost like a current was being run through my body all night. Similar feeling to experiencing too many EMFs from cell phone, ect. 4) Mental drain and brainfog. To the extent that I have a difficult time functioning for the remainder of the day after he leaves, and cannot do normal tasks. Also my text messages will become littered with spelling errors. 5) Sometimes it is as if my joints have aged and are somewhat arthritic.... Still asking, what is going on?! I am not buying the emotional/psychological/codependency theory at ALL (@SpiritofZoe, OEN34, happyhorse). I was raised by a mental health therapist, know healthy boundaries, etc. This feel more like a purely energy thing. Interestingly enough I am taking a class on supernatural Chinese literature, and recently there has been a lot of material about this notion they used to have about either women (yin) or ghosts (very yin) sucking the male lifeforce energy (yang) out of the man in the story and killing him or nearly killing him. Sometimes when I've read these stories, they go into great detail about the experience and I'm thinking, "That's me!" hahaha. The catch is, me and my boyfriend are both men :) So according to that theory, would be 2 yang energies and no yin around to drain us. The other thing I've been researching is this notion in traditional Chinese medicine about the unique elemental personalities we each have. I am definitely mostly earth and water. I would say my boyfriend is fire. I don't know how that would make such a huge difference. This is all so "out there" for me. I wouldn't actually believe this stuff unless I was so desperate for an explanation. I am afraid this relationship is literally killing me by slowly draining my lifeforce energy which cannot be replaced. :'( The problem is I can't just throw my boyfriend away, he is such a good guy and loving. I have prayed many times to my "guides" and guardian angel. No clear answer. It's like a "figure it out for yourself" situation.


pluralone 28-02-2018 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SpiritofZoe
I just hope you realize there are many many possibilities for the cause of your symptoms, all of which have NOTHING to do with an intimate relationship. It comes from the environment, the air, water, food as well as energy, EMF, scalar energy, mind programming, all part of an agenda to have an unhealthy population.

This is what you personally think, based on your beliefs. While I agree that there may be some major environmental factors going on here, I don't understand why you would state your opinion in this way ("I just hope you realize..."). That kind of assertion doesn't invite further conversation; it's more apt to evoke a defensive response in the OP or, less severely, no response at all. End of discussion either way. That's unfortunate; I think you may have had some interesting info to add here.

evariste 28-03-2018 06:02 PM

So I had a few theories about what was going on. I've been struggling with this about 6 months, been together with my boyfriend almost 1 year (symptoms didn't start until a couple months after being together). I thought it might be that he was somehow draining my energy; that he was a psychic vampire; that he had some bodily / aura / energy wound or deficiency and that I was being drained of my healer energy; that is was all in my head; etc. Bottom line I didn't want to make any moves until I had "figured it out." And for some reason beyond my pleas for insight, my guides/angels were mostly silent on the issue. I think I finally got it though. I have an answer that clicks and allows me to walk away. Basically I did an I Ching and oracle card and both said the same thing which confirms with the most recent intuition... he's an unbalanced fire element (not a mixture of elements to create balance), and I'm a water element. Basically his fire was putting out my water, evaporating off my element essence (therefore the "drain" feeling), as well as manifesting all the heat symptoms I've tried to articulate such as arthritis, staticy/achy/ungrounded feeling, fuzzy head, etc. which only appear after being around him some time. Otherwise, I'm completely fine. What's very interesting is that a Chinese person came into my life (from Singapore, Chinese nationality), who knew about the personal elements. He explained that many combinations of elements can sustain or support each other but water/fire is irreconcilable. One gets burnt up the other put out. I can't take it anymore, as I said before, I feel like the relationship was slowly draining the life out of me. Let's just say I spent a few days with him again this week and reached the end of what I could tolerate. I have no choice. I have to walk away. The problem is I feel so weak, and am concerned I lost a lot of lifeforce. I'm also afraid of his stalker/codependent nature and that I will have to put up a fight to end this. I just need some supporting words right now as I try to find autonomy and regain my strength.

SpiritofZoe 01-04-2018 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by pluralone
This is what you personally think, based on your beliefs. While I agree that there may be some major environmental factors going on here, I don't understand why you would state your opinion in this way ("I just hope you realize..."). That kind of assertion doesn't invite further conversation; it's more apt to evoke a defensive response in the OP or, less severely, no response at all. End of discussion either way. That's unfortunate; I think you may have had some interesting info to add here.


well I apologize to the poster in question if saying "I just hope you realize" sounded confrontational. Does she, the recent commenter, agree?
I can see how you might be right, but I can see how your perspective is overly sensitive - think of it this way- my passing observation and input to the comment is, gosh, there is a lot going on there physically - that's all.
There was a lot going on there physically, it's that simple. They posted their issue, asked for feedback, and some random person such as me notes, maybe you could hold off on the psychic vampire or black magic or voodoo hokey pokey and just acknowledge there is a lot of physical stuff going on. IMO it's a rational response to what he posted from someone who doesn't know much more about the situation to just suggest that maybe she or he should see a doctor, and out of concern that someone might "just hope she realizes" there is a wider array of possible interpretations here. I didn't intend it to start more discussion; I just hoped for their sake that their bases were covered.

SpiritofZoe 01-04-2018 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by evariste
So I had a few theories about what was going on. I've been struggling with this about 6 months, been together with my boyfriend almost 1 year (symptoms didn't start until a couple months after being together). I thought it might be that he was somehow draining my energy; that he was a psychic vampire; that he had some bodily / aura / energy wound or deficiency and that I was being drained of my healer energy; that is was all in my head; etc. Bottom line I didn't want to make any moves until I had "figured it out." And for some reason beyond my pleas for insight, my guides/angels were mostly silent on the issue. I think I finally got it though. I have an answer that clicks and allows me to walk away. Basically I did an I Ching and oracle card and both said the same thing which confirms with the most recent intuition... he's an unbalanced fire element (not a mixture of elements to create balance), and I'm a water element. Basically his fire was putting out my water, evaporating off my element essence (therefore the "drain" feeling), as well as manifesting all the heat symptoms I've tried to articulate such as arthritis, staticy/achy/ungrounded feeling, fuzzy head, etc. which only appear after being around him some time. Otherwise, I'm completely fine. What's very interesting is that a Chinese person came into my life (from Singapore, Chinese nationality), who knew about the personal elements. He explained that many combinations of elements can sustain or support each other but water/fire is irreconcilable. One gets burnt up the other put out. I can't take it anymore, as I said before, I feel like the relationship was slowly draining the life out of me. Let's just say I spent a few days with him again this week and reached the end of what I could tolerate. I have no choice. I have to walk away. The problem is I feel so weak, and am concerned I lost a lot of lifeforce. I'm also afraid of his stalker/codependent nature and that I will have to put up a fight to end this. I just need some supporting words right now as I try to find autonomy and regain my strength.


I hope you are feeling much better and I support whatever interpretation you want ot give the whole experience. Sounds like you are blessed and mature enough to know you are both divine beings and wish no one any harm. As I wish you no offense in questioning a paranormal interpretation; as we all know it all works together. There are times when the causes of one's symptoms might be psychosomatic or spiritual/astral/paranormal and yet for brief periods the physical manifestation of it builds up and spills out in a mess, and the picture changes... take best care of yourself and I see you strongly standing and walking away, you might meet an Air sign soon:love8:

jerrygg38 01-04-2018 01:34 PM

Your case is interesting to me in that you have prior family history of spiritual healing. Years ago spiritual healing was very important. Some people are able to absorb the spiritual energy from the spiritual dimension at the center of our Earth. This energy is contained within our souls. When the touch somebody there is a flow of spiritual energy from their soul to the other persons soul. This is explained in my latest book "Cosmic Reincarnation and the Dual Light-speed Universe".
Many people have new souls. They are not reincarnates. You are a reincarnate and have lived many times before. This gives you a degree of healing ability. It helps you to heal but to a lesser extent it permits you to touch another person and give them some of your spiritual energy.
Jesus was a spiritual healer. He could touch people and his excessive spiritual energy would flow into them. Nowadays fewer and fewer people are spiritual healers since medicine has advanced so much.
So you meet people who have new souls. Their spiritual energy is very low and they drain you. I cannot advise you what to do. I just want you to understand that you are spiritually superior and every man who you meet most likely will be spiritually inferior. Opposites often make good love mates.

SpiritofZoe 02-04-2018 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jerrygg38
Your case is interesting to me in that you have prior family history of spiritual healing. Years ago spiritual healing was very important. Some people are able to absorb the spiritual energy from the spiritual dimension at the center of our Earth. This energy is contained within our souls. When the touch somebody there is a flow of spiritual energy from their soul to the other persons soul. This is explained in my latest book "Cosmic Reincarnation and the Dual Light-speed Universe".
Many people have new souls. They are not reincarnates. You are a reincarnate and have lived many times before. This gives you a degree of healing ability. It helps you to heal but to a lesser extent it permits you to touch another person and give them some of your spiritual energy.
Jesus was a spiritual healer. He could touch people and his excessive spiritual energy would flow into them. Nowadays fewer and fewer people are spiritual healers since medicine has advanced so much.
So you meet people who have new souls. Their spiritual energy is very low and they drain you. I cannot advise you what to do. I just want you to understand that you are spiritually superior and every man who you meet most likely will be spiritually inferior. Opposites often make good love mates.


just got me thinking you know I used to be so harsh; younger me was SO defensive (i'd been hurt--hadnt we all). Understanding and adapting to the fact of their young souls was impossible for me it seemed, I was too immature for the job after all, I was no better. There is a passage Christians know, Without Love, you are nothing. I am not preaching it because I was very far from living up to it, practicing it, but I am definitely agreeing with it and wish I'd lived by it more consistently.


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