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Shalimar 21-02-2012 10:13 PM

Hebrew Language
 
I'm learning Hebrew right now and I was wondering if anyone could recommend me a good Hebrew/English-English/Hebrew dictionary that would also include religious words. I'm looking for a dictionary that would show the Hebrew words with the vowel because I would not be able to read the word if the vowels are not shown (I'm not that experience as to do that). The method I have to study gives you reading practice and they specify "these are real Hebrew words" but they didn't put the translation of these words anywhere! It is frustrating to be able to read the words but not understanding anything that I have read....:confused: What's the point, I would like to say to the authors, of giving us real words, and enabling us to read them if they don't give us their meaning...What's the point of reading when you don't understand...Some reading practice are visibly Hebrew prayers.

I found some dictionaries online but I cannot type the Hebrew words as I don't have a Hebrew keyboard and for now cannot spend the money on the software. Then I found some dictionaries but the reviews say that they do not include religious words (so that won't help). I'm at the ends of my wits to try to find a way to get to understand what I'm reading.

Thanks for your help :smile:

Peace :hug3:

TeeHee 22-02-2012 04:25 AM

Maybe this is not what you're looking for but as far as I know Strong's concordance has the Hebrew words used in the Bible with their meaning. Not only will it have the Hebrew but also the Greek. Hope it helps

For example, earlier today I looked up the word reproved:

H843 towkechah tō·kā·khä' reproof, rebuke, reproved, arguments, misc

http://www.blueletterbible.org/search.cfm

Yamah 22-02-2012 06:57 AM

There's no such thing as a hebrew dictionary that doesn't include religious words. Hebrew is a small and efficient language.

When I was learning Hebrew I used the Shimon Zilberman dictionary I got for free from the Jewish Agency when I made Aliyah isbn-965-222-862-1. It says it has 82,000 entries and I haven't come across a Hebrew word yet from religious or secular texts that it doesn't cover. I also used the Artscroll Interlinear Translation of the Siddur when I was learning to pray. Basically it translates every single word individually for you right there so you can learn as you pray - a genius tool.

I've been in Israel for 6 years and still didn't get the hebrew sticker thingies for my keyboard lol... what I do when I need to type hebrew words is type out all the letters in order in notepad and carefully attempt to reproduce to the words that way. Might help you in a pinch.

Anyways, b'hatzlacha! The Hebrew language is rich and beautiful. i pray it brings you yichus and simcha.

Shalimar 22-02-2012 08:46 PM

Thanks Teehee & Yamah for your help :smile: I do need a real dictionary as I need to be able to get the meaning of Hebrew words that can be "table" as well as "cherubim". Some in my method are just common words but they did put full prayers. So a concordance would not do the trick.
I'm gonna look up the dictionary you spoke about Yamah, thanks for giving the ISBN! I agree with you " The Hebrew language is rich and beautiful." There is just something more about it, I've always felt that way and now that I learn it, I go from "one marvel to the other"!

Peace/Shalom :hug3:

JaysonR 24-03-2012 12:39 AM

FORWARD:
Forgive the format, but I'm not permitted to post URL's yet, so I've had to alter the format accordingly.
You can copy this post into regular notepad, press control+h, type <dot> in "find what" and . in "replace with" and then press, "Replace All".
Then, type <slash> in "find what" and / in "replace with" and then press, "Replace All".
This will return the format correctly so that you can copy/paste the links into a browser again.

Once I am allowed to add links, I'll make sure to come back through and correct these links.
Again, my apologies.

Note: there are also some odd errors in the way the post is presenting the text in general; chiefly, there are added spaces that I did not place, but are showing up in the final post.
An example of this is the name Gesenius' below.
It is being rendered as if it is
Geseniu s', even though it is not written with a space between the, "u", and the, "s" :icon_frown: :
en<dot>wikisource<dot>org<slash>wiki<slash>Geseniu s'_Hebrew_Grammar

If you see spaces, remove them; they are not intended.


Alright, here are some resources that might aid in your pursuits.
This is my current compiled list I have used over the years:
(I have added my thoughts and opinions on them in case it helps)

Reading:
  • classic<dot>net<dot>bible<dot>org<slash>bible<dot> php
    Doubles as dictionary & options for grammar, but you can't take everything they say as final; it's a good indication of the options, and then you can work from there. It makes it much more easy than otherwise.
    The definitions are just all of the options, and not specific to the grammatical use, though which form the grammar is (of verbs) is stated.
  • mechon-mamre<dot>org<slash>p<slash>pt<slash>pt0<dot>htm
    My personal favorite for Hebrew reading online.
    I have simply never found a better online resource for raw classic Hebrew text.
    The easiest way to use this is to type in the book you are looking for, then click on a result that has a chapter listing (like Genesis 1, is an example of a result if you type in Genesis). Once you get into a chapter (even if it is not the chapter you are looking for), all of the book's chapter's will be visible at the top as clickable links. (In short, their search engine isn't too great, but it's workable.)
  • scripture4all<dot>org<slash>OnlineInterlinear<slas h>Hebrew_Index<dot>htm
    This one is alright, but it's easy to get distracted with their translations, which aren't bad exactly or anything, I just prefer as raw as I can get.

Dictionaries:
  • classic<dot>net<dot>bible<dot>org<slash>bible<dot> php
    As stated above, useful as a dictionary as well.
  • morfix<dot>mako<dot>co<dot>il
    This one is tricky to use because the site navigation is in Hebrew, so that may cause stumbling blocks at first, but just paste the Hebrew into the search bar at the top right and click on the first button to the left of the search field to find a result.
    Results are in English.

Grammar:
  • en<dot>wikisource<dot>org<slash>wiki<slash>Geseniu s'_Hebrew_Grammar
    Great breakdown of everything. Really insanely lengthy though, but it's really slick to see a reference book flipped into a searchable and clickable wiki!
    Really great resource for Nouns! (which are hard to come by content on...most concentrate on the grammar of the verbs)
    Also has the ever tricky Participles!!
  • hebrew4christians<dot>net<slash>Grammar<slash>gram mar<dot>html
    Really light-weight, but a decent introduction to basic classic Hebrew grammar.
  • laits<dot>utexas<dot>edu<slash>hebrew<slash>heblan g<slash>bh<slash>bhonline<slash>grammar<slash>verb s<dot>pdf
    A really short, but really effective simple layout of the common and basic conjugations, such as the Person, in easy tables.
  • torahdikduk<dot>com/DikdukSetup<dot>zip
    Absolutely unrivaled.
    The most comprehensive and usefull tool on Hebrew Grammar I have ever found.
    With this and something like <dot>mechon-mamre<dot>org<slash>p<slash>pt<slash>pt0<dot>htm, you can quickly identify which form a word is in and therefore which grammatical treatment to employ.
  • tmcdaniel<dot>palmerseminary<dot>edu<slash>Geseniu sGrammar<dot>pdf
    REALLY in-depth, not so much a resource look-up, but a learning read. (this is the same as the wiki above, but without being able to "wiki")
  • jewishvirtuallibrary<dot>org<slash>jsource<slash>j udaica<slash>ejud_0002_0008_0_08627<dot>html
    Great reference for quick verb conjugation meanings (and more).
    (simple active, simple passive, intensive active, intensive passive, causative active, causative passive, and reflexive)

Classic Hebrew Fonts:
  • scripts<dot>sil<dot>org<slash>EzraSIL_Home

Hope that helps :wink:

JaysonR 24-03-2012 09:48 AM

Unfortunately, I didn't realize that there was a time limit on the editing feature, so to correct the links I'll have to double-post.
Sorry. :icon_frown:

Reading:
  • classic.net.bible.org/bible.php
    Doubles as dictionary & options for grammar, but you can't take everything they say as final; it's a good indication of the options, and then you can work from there. It makes it much more easy than otherwise.
    The definitions are just all of the options, and not specific to the grammatical use, though which form the grammar is (of verbs) is stated.
  • mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0.htm
    My personal favorite for Hebrew reading online.
    I have simply never found a better online resource for raw classic Hebrew text.
    The easiest way to use this is to type in the book you are looking for, then click on a result that has a chapter listing (like Genesis 1, is an example of a result if you type in Genesis). Once you get into a chapter (even if it is not the chapter you are looking for), all of the book's chapter's will be visible at the top as clickable links. (In short, their search engine isn't too great, but it's workable.)
  • scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/Hebrew_Index.htm
    This one is alright, but it's easy to get distracted with their translations, which aren't bad exactly or anything, I just prefer as raw as I can get.

Dictionaries:
  • classic.net.bible.org/bible.php
    As stated above, useful as a dictionary as well.
  • morfix.mako.co.il
    This one is tricky to use because the site navigation is in Hebrew, so that may cause stumbling blocks at first, but just paste the Hebrew into the search bar at the top right and click on the first button to the left of the search field to find a result.
    Results are in English.

Grammar:
  • en.wikisource.org/wiki/Gesenius'_Hebrew_Grammar
    Great breakdown of everything. Really insanely lengthy though, but it's really slick to see a reference book flipped into a searchable and clickable wiki!
    Really great resource for Nouns! (which are hard to come by content on...most concentrate on the grammar of the verbs)
    Also has the ever tricky Participles!!
  • hebrew4christians.net/Grammar/grammar.html
    Really light-weight, but a decent introduction to basic classic Hebrew grammar.
  • laits.utexas.edu/hebrew/heblang/bh/bhonline/grammar/verbs.pdf
    A really short, but really effective simple layout of the common and basic conjugations, such as the Person, in easy tables.
  • torahdikduk.com/DikdukSetup.zip
    Absolutely unrivaled.
    The most comprehensive and usefull tool on Hebrew Grammar I have ever found.
    With this and something like .mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt0.htm, you can quickly identify which form a word is in and therefore which grammatical treatment to employ.
  • tmcdaniel.palmerseminary.edu/GeseniusGrammar.pdf
    REALLY in-depth, not so much a resource look-up, but a learning read. (this is the same as the wiki above, but without being able to "wiki")
  • jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/judaica/ejud_0002_0008_0_08627.html
    Great reference for quick verb conjugation meanings (and more).
    (simple active, simple passive, intensive active, intensive passive, causative active, causative passive, and reflexive)

Classic Hebrew Fonts:
  • scripts.sil.org/EzraSIL_Home

Shalimar 24-03-2012 01:10 PM

[QUOTE Hope that helps :wink:[/quote]

Thank you so much JaysonR, for all this info and for taking the time to type all that. That was very kind of you and yes, very helpful! :hug2:

I want also to extend to you a warm welcome to our community! :smile:

Peace
:hug3:

JaysonR 25-03-2012 07:03 AM

Absolutely not a problem to share.
Glad to help!

If you want help with anything related to this, just shoot me an IM, and I'll do what I can.
If you want, I also have an anthropological timeline from 1000 BCE to 90 CE of the Hebrew peoples that I put together.
(Not sure if this would be of aid to your studies or not)


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