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I'm having clairaudience and visions seeing and hearing masses of natives, praying in chorus and it feels like to me and Great Spirit, and I see a crystal skull shining light like the sun, in all directions, and Great Spirit comes down shining back from the sky, and talks but can't hear, and I see the sky people. I just know it's connected to my atlantean past since me and tf went to yucatan, when Atlantis went down. But, what can it mean?
We have a hell of a past coming over there when the country was sinking, I'm plagued by prodding and visions to go there feel it's my home. I remember lots of stuff.

You need to consult Indiana Jones on this one.

what do you remember Marie?? :smile:

I have a strong connection to that time as well. The similiarity to the native american spirituality i think just has to do with the powers of nature. The sky, water, and earth. I dont believe its of the native american origin. But it to me can seem like it cause most things today have forgotten about these powers. Where indigenous societys have not forgotten about these powers to the best of my knowledge.

I seem to remember meditating in caves and using a lot of quartz crystal. Concentration exercises and a lineage of teachers whom taught the arts. Its interesting but any memories that i seem to develop are small pieces of the pie and foggy.

In all honesty i dont think yoir going to find a section for it. Probably wiccan is closest. I dont know?

The crystal skulls were a interesting idea.. However they do not fall into accord with any mesoamerican cultures myths and legends. The ones reported as precolumbus artifacts are in fact made after Columbus and most likely in Europe.:icon_eek:

I do believe that people can tap into their native roots though. Every culture can go far enough back to have a reverence for nature. Perhaps the allure to NA culture is that they held onto that concept for longer :smile:

Sirian ET's are native, that is where the brown skinned gene comes from, that's where our native traditions came from, the sky people are most probably the sirians otherwise known as the thunderbeings.
ET's were all here in the past when the great flood hit.
The floating city of atlantis is at Sirius and so are other ascended people from atlantis times.

After reading this post, I am going to get in my little flying saucer and go to the rez again. :confused:

Well I learned a lot about the star people in my native traditions.

The thunderbeings (like thunder bird) are believed to come from the stars. Belief in ETs is super ancient and still lives on in native culture, at least first nations culture around here.

If you ever listen to any of the old stories from story tellers and medicine people, you'll see the beings that are sometimes referred to as animals are actually referred to as people. For example, Raven is not referred to as a bird, he is literally referred to as a man, paddling a canoe across the ocean, where he defeats "Bear Man" or "Spider Woman" among others, and there is lots of mention of where they all originally came from, which is from the stars, and their original tribe/phratry/bloodline comes from the stars on another planet, before they came down to earth to teach humans many things including the medicine path, and in some stories they either leave to go back to the stars or go under or somewhere near the ocean somewhere that no one knows.
Basically, Raven is not actually a raven, he simply comes from the Raven Phratry, raven is his family crest and he is orginally an ET being who looks very much like we do, who is capable of shapeshifting and magic.
Raven in native culture was also known as Osiris in egyptian culture, and he is identicle to other mythological characters in other ancient legends.

Sirian and Pleadian are all new age terms, but both of these ET's were notoriously known in native culture, long before new agers made them popular.
My native elders knew about the BLUE skinnned ET's that new agers call Pleadians for a long time, they have always been helpful to us over the years, not to mention our "sirian" ancestors.

At least in my native culture, we believe that everything has a spirit, rocks, trees, animals and even life on other planets, and we say ALL OUR RELATIONS because we realize that we are all related, literally and ET's are us in a way, and that's where the medicine practices come from. For example, the diety known as white calf buffalo woman to buffalo nation, is also said to have come from the stars.

I would really like to know more about this, thank you in advance. I always felt i come from Sirius and felt a very strong soul link to Native Americans. What are the characteristics of a thunderbeing, this word also resonated so much in me the second i read it...like a latent piece of my soul suddendly sprung in life or something. I don't know why, i feel your words carry a different vibration from many on this world. Thank you for your time.

....."Sirian and Pleadian are all new age terms, but both of these ET's were notoriously known in native culture, long before new agers made them popular. "........

This New Age appropreation of Native ways I do not approve of. Or the Hollywood ET space alien interpretation of our stories and ways. I will not let New Age people or Hollywood define us, or our stories. When I asked you about your user name, you told me you were not Native.

You never asked me what race I was at least I don't remember that. I am native american and irish, a half breed, adopted though so im actually considered metis here in canada. I am a heyoka medicine person despite being younger than most and mixed race, I led sweatlodges for the longest time, which I don't do anymore.
Anyway, I have nothing against any other culture, religion or faith, because there are all pretty much the same, but I do find it weird how new agers borrow things from ancient cultures but only take little bits of it without truly knowing what it really means.

You probably are sirian and maybe even a thunderbeing if you feel it so strongly :D . Always listen to your instincts and heart knowing.

The thunderbeings are a group of ET warriors, more like peace warriors and they help assist the earth changes and anything that involves the earth, they create storms and earth disasters that help in cleansing and puryifing and protecting the earth and they work with angelic beings and elemental realm beings that also assist with the earth. They sometimes assist humanity but mostly care about assisting the earth itself.

That's why in myth they are portrayed as very powerful, like the giant Thunderbird who creates thunder and lightning or the Phoenix that spreads its firey flames of transumation all over the earth. They say, you don't want to contact Thunderbird unless you want to experience transformation and transformation can be painful sometimes.

The thunderbeings all look different though, most can shapeshift into dragons or winged beings or whatever they want. The culture is where native american culture came from, so that's where the use of animal masks came from, which is why the sirian's can easily shapeshift form or they can appear to be half human-half animal, or just have the head of a raven and the body of a man, like seen in ancient egyptian drawings of the gods. They use the masks to help them shapeshift form.

The destruction that creates peace is a job only a thunderbeing can do, because storm energy is a very transformative energy that can easily destroy someone who is not used to it.

If you are a thunderbeing, you would be called Heyoka in native culture. Of course some people think only full blooded native have that right, but I do not believe that at all, because I know that the Sirians consist of mixed races, there is a lot of interaccial dating if you know what I mean lol. So that's why a lot of people think the Sirians are pleadian and vice versa. But the original race that is Sirian are the brown skinned ones that I'm talking about. They are actually a lot taller than native people here on earth. The pleadians have the blue skinned gene which does not exist here on earth anymore, it's easily bred out, but from interaccial mixing, you can get all shades of blue skinned people living on Sirius. The white gene came from the Lyrans. Sirius is basically a planet full of all kinds of races, in other words, but the oldest race has always been the brown skinned ones, same as it has been here. Most people there are mixed race, so if you are ET then you are also probably mixed race now. I call myself sirian because it's what I identify with mostly, but the truth is I am mixed race there too and have two sets of parents there, just as I do here. If you are very connected to it, you are probably mixed race as well. Starseeds and ET walk ins can only "incarnate" into bodies that share the same DNA as their ET bodies. That probably sounds confusing.

Heyoka people are very unorthodox, often considered eccentric, different, truth speakers, but sort of backwards, notoriously known to be great warriors and leaders, sometimes very powerful and even feared because of their power and spiritual abilities. They experience much suffering and darkness, just to be able to become the ultimate healer and lightworker and to be able to handle transformation energy without it harming them.

In general, the Sirian warriors communicate telepathically and are very calm, yet once you get to know them they are very loving and can be very energetic. They love sports, they love food, and they have very healthy sexual appetities, which is the same for most of the sirian culture, and at the same time are extremely spiritually advanced.

What your saying about the energy from the storms is what i experience. Its very powerful and puts you at your limit mentally and physically running energy with them.

There is nothing more powerful for growth than connecting, and being with them imo. To me its worth more than anything else i know of to connect with them.

For me i can say most of my growth is through a oneness with them. The energy in my experience works its way through you. It is enjoyable and painfull. The body at least for me takes time to acclimate.

But there is no end to the power that wants to be with you from them. So no matter how deep i become with that enerfy, there seems to always be more available

In my experience i see no end to it. As i say on this forum a lot. The energy working through me feels powerful. Im aways radiating a joyful intoxication. Its been non stop for a numher of years now. . Some think im crazy but it is what it is. And its endless joy. I have met some others whom have the same experience.

As far as im concerned. Whats in the sky is me or an extension of me. Cause i cant stop exeriencing it if i tryed.

I remember specifically asking you about your user name, and you said it is a name of a charactor out of an Hollywood western. You never said you were breed NDN as well. I distinctly remember asking you if you were native. You no longer have my trust.

Are you serious? Go back and read the thread, you never once asked me what race I was besides I'm not sure why that even matters.
If you can't find it here is our conversation:

This is what you said:

"@Keokutah

What does your user name mean?

Religion is boring because it is all about control. Most spirituality is about control, thus it is boring.

Long winded rambling spiritual posts such as yours and others can be boring. Rambling head centered talk can be boring. Talk that does not come from the heart is boring.

If Donald Trump looked at those reading this thread he would say:

"look at them, they are sleeping!"

What does You "name" mean?

My answer is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNM4MYco-jc

Thunder Bow

This is a video I made using my photography and video. On location. I this this this answer will be better than explaining my spirituality in long winded text."

And this is what I said:

"Thanks for sharing, that's one of my favourite songs, if i remember right its called Sunset Ceremony by David and Steve Gordon right? That's a very nice video you made.

Do you do any dancing yourself? That would be a good way to make spirituality more physically stimulating, because dancing can be very sacred and a good way to connect with spirit and what not.

I'm just looking for ideas on how people make their spirituality more physically exciting and stimulating.

Oh and my name basically describes my life path or could mean working one or something like that. It was also in a book my parents really liked, I can't remember the name but I think it might of been a Lois Lamour book, western or something."

You never once asked me what race I was, maybe you just assumed. And again I'm not sure you read my post right, because I am not full blooded ndn, I am mixed race. I do not know much about irish culture but from what i know about it, it is also very rich.

Yes it is very intense! Sounds like you are having a great experience with it though.

Well....it seems you never mentioned your Nation (if indeed you got any ndn blood in you). Thus my "assumption" is justified. I had to dig through your non sense in your thread. It is also true, you never said your were breed ndn. By asking about your movie user name, I was asking if you are Native. Now I ask you: What is your Nation??? I do not think "sirian" is an Native Nation.

I also ask:

What is a Heyoka Medicine Man?

Why are you proclaiming this Online?

What do you know about the Thunders?

This all sounds like very fishy New Age stuff to me.

Is this your flying saucer ?

What is your problem? :confused: You seem like a very angry person.

I already told you my nation, the buffalo nation, otherwise known as Cree, when i said I led sweatlodges for a long time. That is a CREE custom.

And yes those are new age terms, which I also already said! I believe in my native culture as well as everything else. You are very offensive trying to tell people that new age stuff is wrong. You do realize that most new age stuff stems from ancient beliefs anyways, right?

And you obviously don't know much about your own culture if you seem to think native people don't believe in ET's, because it's a huge part of our traditions and stories.

If you want to know what I know about the thunderbeings and the heyoka, then read my posts in this thread, I explained it all already.

And if you wanted to know my race, you could have just asked me. I'm not sure what my name has to do with the colour of my skin!

Oki Thunder Bow and Tansi Keokutah,

Thunder Bow I think you know me and my heritage and my intentions well enough by now, and Keokutah for your info I'm Canadian First Nations.

Respectfully guys whilst I can see both points of view here and I'm not here to get involved, this sure doesn't look good on main forum though especially from an NDN point of view. It might be best to keep this to Pm's or in private in the chat room until you've figured it out.

I'm happy to talk with either of you if you want, just pm me.

Makoiyi

I have no clue why that person is being so hostile to me, but I have not done anything to deserve it so give me a break.

Star People, Sky People, are Spirits or what we call Kachenas. These Spirit Beings are not the classic ET, Space Alien people from Star Wars. I do not like that spin you used, to make them fit contemporary ideals. Coyote, Spider Woman, are also Spirit People who taught us our ways. My ancestors looked at the universe much differently than modern people today do.

Take a good look at this to understand the Navajo View of the Universe:



Do you see Darth Vader here?

You can believe in whatever you believe in, I'm not attempting to change your mind and I should hope for you to respect my beliefs too. That is what I believe in from personal experience. All the medicine men I've learned from over the years believe that the star people are actually star people who are our relatives, not just spirits, in fact all of them are spiritually gifted enough to see them and speak to them just like I can and some of the most powerful medicine people I know have ufos following them around. I've never heard that native people don't believe in aliens because in my town at least, everyone I know does.

UFOs are sometimes seen over our Big Reservation in NE Arizona. To us Dine' they are considered to be Aliens like the White man was 500yrs ago. to present day. They are from outside of our nation. I never heard of UFOs following our Medicine People around.

I am not taking sides here I live in the uk but have NDN. blood in me I know thunder bow and he is not an angry person.everyone is entitled to their opinions but that is what they are opinions.
Thunder bow knows his peoples traditions .but even I think that some of your remarks are a bit far out.

Namaste