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Firetastic 22-10-2017 06:49 PM

Will science ever be able to prove the afterlife?
 
Is science getting closer to proving the afterlife or not? Will there be a tool that they can use to prove there is an afterlife? I'm not a sciency person but would love to find hard evidence for all the sceptics out there that there is more to this life than meets the eye literally.

Your thoughts please.

Scommstech 22-10-2017 09:27 PM

No matter what you show some people they will not deviate from their own way of thinking.
I have used a simple pendulum to pick out the marked card from an over turned set of three cards.
This is a simple "parlour" game that in my eyes demonstrates that an "unseen" force is activating the pendulum that I am holding.
The response is that I am some how cheating or that some one in the room is tipping me off as to which card has been marked.
The last thing that people want to admit is that there must be some energy other than the people present there that is aiding me. It somehow makes them seem venerable.
What does not help is the number of fraudsters out there are who do try to pull the wool over your eyes and trick you, usually for financial gain..

Firetastic 22-10-2017 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scommstech
No matter what you show some people they will not deviate from their own way of thinking.
I have used a simple pendulum to pick out the marked card from an over turned set of three cards.
This is a simple "parlour" game that in my eyes demonstrates that an "unseen" force is activating the pendulum that I am holding.
The response is that I am some how cheating or that some one in the room is tipping me off as to which card has been marked.
The last thing that people want to admit is that there must be some energy other than the people present there that is aiding me. It somehow makes them seem venerable.
What does not help is the number of fraudsters out there are who do try to pull the wool over your eyes and trick you, usually for financial gain..


The saying: To the believer no proof is needed to the sceptic no proof is enough springs to mind.

CrystalSong 22-10-2017 11:38 PM

Look into the Monroe Institute in the East and research at Berkley and Pasadena (It maybe another University city), also look up Chronovision.
There's been a lot of repeatable, credible science around stuff like this for a long time, something which have been learned are being used by sectors in the Military even. For something interesting historically look up Ghost Dancers and why it's illegal to do them.
There's lots out there actually - it's just not discussed in main stream media so no one thinks it exists.
Start looking - you'll find it.

CrystalSong 22-10-2017 11:45 PM

Here's the Wiki on it, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Dance which totally takes the bias as looking at it as a religion only. I grew up in the West with Elders who remembered their fathers and Grandfathers during the American Indian wars finding themselves fighting spirits and some getting so spooked they refused to return to the battle field.

Whatever happened out there - it was scary enough to spook Military men and for it to become illegal to dance the Ghost Dance. Still. Just some interesting back history. It's always interesting when science either denies something or refuses to look at it but Federal Laws around the subject are enacted anyway.

srirama123 26-10-2017 11:46 AM

Youth Motivational Speaker
 
Hii

Life is an adventure that transcends our ordinary linear way of thinking. When we die, we do so not in the random billiard-ball-matrix but in the inescapable-life-matrix.

Dargor 26-10-2017 12:02 PM

Nope. But I don't need science to prove it for me.

r6r6 27-10-2017 02:53 AM

Choose Your Pathway and Pray for Rain
 
1} We have faith/trust and believe the car coming from opposite direction will not cross the center line and hit us, even tho we know they occasionally do cross the line and hit someone.

2} Experiential science shows this is possible in many differrent ways to occur with many differrent results.

3 }Rational, logical common sense arrives at a similar conclusions and with anticipation, seek ways to improve, avoid and respond to these potential problems before the occur.

4} Pray we make it through another day-night on the road.

Four pathways to many differrent conclusions.

r6

organic born 28-10-2017 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Firetastic
The saying: To the believer no proof is needed to the sceptic no proof is enough springs to mind.

So here's the rub. "Everything" that crosses our mind is a "belief". So when we're comparing notes about the validity of one system of beliefs over another we are still tangled among images of projected uncertainty. We believe what we do in the hopes of attaining some effectiveness over the events that surround our day to day movements and interactions. But regardless of the content they are still wrapped in a cloud of speculation.

So a "skeptic" is being entertained by the stream of their own thinking, while the "believer" is doing similar but with a differing set of assumptions.

A skeptic and a believer are both in the same boat. They are guessing, using different words and different images to define what they "hope" to be valid at some level. If a bird were to land and watch the two slugging it out verbally this bird would only see two humans making noises with their mouths, but nothing around them, physically, would be any different than anything else. The argument is only in their heads.

dream jo 28-10-2017 01:53 PM

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