Suicide and the afterlife
 

what happens to a person in the afterlife when they commit suicide? I'm not gonna lie, I'm what many people would label as an somewhere between an indigo/crystal child (I don't like the labels but its a good way to say how I think and feel I guess) and being alive kinda feels torturous, literally, like I feel like a bipolar schizo times 10 with a dose of daily meth and heroin (not literally haha) and so sometimes I feel suicidal so if something were to happen (not saying i will commit suicide and not saying i wont) what would happen in the afterlife?

15ahayes,
You feel different, you feel weird, life can be a bummer, and it can all get too much sometimes, but stick it out, shine your light. The world needs sensitive people like you to be strong warriors.

I don't literally know, first-hand, every detail of what happens to suicides. The whole concept of 'suicide' is so vast anyway. There are so many millions of intentions, and so many different situations and reasons for opting out of life in the physical. It's not 'one size fits all'. But the intent will be the thing which is carried over.

I have heard all sorts of accounts, from one thing to another, but the overall situation seems to be gradual healing and learning in a stronger and better way, and to overcome those things which became intolerable. I hear there is a state of compassion once the impact of what happened is fully assimilated.
But far better it is done while a Soul is here, while it is in the incarnation where it chose to face such challenges!

So have a re-think, please, and soldier on, because there can be a brighter tomorrow -always. And it's always good to pass over naturally with a task fulfilled.

Suicide can never be an escape. Only a choice.

No one knows what happens if someone commits suicide. I do know that there is no point in doing it as you will still have problems in the afterlife. Suicide is not the answer. You might reincarnate back on earth again for committing suicide. I admit life can get hard and I think people think about ending it but as I said it is not the answer. We must go on. One day everyone will die so until then make the most of what you have here.

Way to go.. bravo... Telling a possibly suicidal person on a forum that if he kills himself, he/she will get a fresh start, new family, new country..life etc...

what the hell man?
Well, let's see.. i ain't no better.. so after watching a video on youtube about someone using ouija and talking with ~~~~ he was told that people that suicide goes to different places depending.. but usually it sucks and they would cry for an eternity wishing they didn't commited suicide.

just because some guy on youtube said it, doesn't mean we now all know what's going on.

either way, suiciding in my idea is the dumbest thing a person can do. unless he is already in a submarine that's sinking and etc..

Watch the movie I Origins (2014) including the scene after credits.

There is no guarantee that you are going to go to a better place if you reincarnate. You could be in poverty or have other awful problems. Even if you do come back to a better life who would want to come back here. I certainly would not. There are too many problems and challenges that we usually have to face. I have it quite good but I do not want to reincarnate here again. That would be very disappointing.
I have been told many times that you cannot believe what you are told playing with a Ouija board. The deceased people or entities whatever they are, are usually evil and will tell you lies and try to make your life miserable.

No one knows what happens.


I personally believe that it is rubbish someone gets punished for commiting suicide since in some cultures like the Japanese it was considered honerable and brave to commit seppuku (amongst samurai) Here in the western world we see suicide as a bad thing.

I think the same thing happens to you after death regardless of how you die.
(I believe in rebirth and as long as your soul is still learning, you will be reborn regardless of the way you died or lived)

I don't know what happens, but for some time already I have believed in reincarnation and found it logical from my point of view. I guess it's coming back and having to redo some lessons, but not as someone stated above, a fresh new cool start, like creating a new character in game. I read somewhere that suicide makes a person leave body in a pretty bad energetic shape. I'm not an expert, just sharing info I found somewhere. It doesn't sound improbable to me.
Whatever happens after death, it still doesn't make suicide a good solution in any case. There are ways to find your path here, the fact that you may feel it didn't happen yet, doesn't mean it's impossible, or that it won't happen. I know what it means to feel that life is torturous, but I have already learnt that there are ways to find peace,maybe not 100% of time, but still. :) It's better to treat sensitivity as a gift than as a curse.

Suicide is generally discouraged.

Are you really suffering that badly? I am certain that there are methods in this life you can use that will make things better.

May be this happens if you commit suicide or may be something else happens. Who knows what really happens. One thing the above posts agree on is suicide is not the answer. If you are thinking about suicide get help or professional help. Suicide affects everyone. The people left behind are grieving and wondering why did they do it.

When a person passes through suicide they go into Healing in the spirit world .there are many reasons why a person commits suicide ,and to them death is seen as a release.

Namaste

I have worked with many who needed help in the non physical earth realm.
Mostly suicide some overdosed. You arrive in the non physical earth realm in the same state as you left this one. And it doesn't matter whether it was an accident, violent act by someone, suicide or an overdose.
Unless you are well balanced, you will not complete your

It will be a whole different thing for someone at the end of their natural life but of sound mind, yet suffering from a nasty terminal illness, to go and sit on a mountain in the winter and let the cold take them.
(In the absence of kind euthanasia for humans that is. Hopefully one day that might change.)

A whole different thing to someone who refuses to rise up from troubles, and carry on to fulfil their natural lives. They have got into a mess and are not willing to fight to work their way out of it.

Intent is everything when it comes to the Soul.

Of course no one knows for sure but I believe in an unconditional God and as such I see no reason a person who suicides would be condemned. I don't think the healing process is necessarily easy, I suspect there may be some regret, but being human is hard and it isn't held against us is my opinion. This said, I do implore you to seek out some counseling. I have struggled with feeling suicidal myself and though it seemed to come from no where I did eventually trace it back to some early learning. Sometimes when we are raised in a fairly stable what would be considered a normal home it can be hard to see where it all comes from but those of us born with stronger than average emotions can have a tendency to internalize them which can play a number on our mood. Depending on the messages we got growing up all sorts of misguided ideas can be adopted by a child so I urge you to try and not see your situation as hopeless because of some label. Labels in and of themselves can be a big part of the problem so try to consider that you may simply have a bigger challenge than some because of a stronger preponderance to the emotional side of life. In a lot of ways it can be a blessing but finding your worth and the value of being human is imperative for you to live our full potential. You have much more to give than you realize but you have to keep living to see it all play out. Stay strong. Recovery is possible.

Your death will be as unique as you are and no one can say what exactly will happen because it is a very intimate experience. It is what is in your heart which matters; and your intentions also matter.

Lets say a person commits suicide in order to save other people; a soldier who jumps on an exploding grenade to save his buddies, a mother who willingly gives her life to save her children, and others who commit altruistic suicide, ending their lives for something larger than themselves. Their intention was not so that they themselves could escape a mentally and emotionally horrible situation but rather so that others could escape a damaging physically horrible situation.

I would suggest talking with a licensed professional about your suicidal ideations; you have got to keep those in check otherwise they will run your life and eventually end it. Do not suffer too long over your suffering; rather learn from your suffering. Write down your thoughts and feelings in an attempt to get them out of you. Look at what you have written days and weeks from now to see if anything has changed, especially how you feel.

What is going to happen in the afterlife is not as important as what is going to happen to you in the days, weeks, and months to come. There are lots of people who attempt suicide and they end up crippling themselves and making their situation even worst. They damage themselves physically because they did not understand or know how to handle their own thoughts and emotions. Suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem; or others might say it is like throwing the baby out with the bathwater, when you only want to get rid of the dirty water and not the baby.

13 years ago my dad committed suicide. After his very sudden death, I couldn't go on in life without knowing why. He left no note, my parents raised six kids and we were all already gone from home except the youngest who it affected probably the worst. I started a 3 year journey, learning how different cultures communicated with the other side. I found the easiest way for me, was the way Indians did it. It's not an easy journey, long pain full and my life was literally on hold, until i was satisfied with his answer. I did get my answer. It was hard to accept, but my dad is still hear in limbo and will be until the last of us kids die. moving forward in the after life is also a choice, he is a second away when i call on him. he see's our pain that he caused everyday, for him that's his choosen punishment. I can't imagine the pain he deals with everyday, the days do get easier and more time pass every visit. I can call on my ansectors, from the other side very easily today, its not something you can unlearn, or forget. I tried many different ways to get my answer, and deal with recently dead people almost on a daily basis, but i know have five kids so its not always conveient for me when a spirit wants to talk or wants me to do things for them. They always want me to say good bye to this or that person, they always want to tell me there life and death stories. And if i were to do all that, they asked of me i wouldn't live my life . I dont know were dad is going once us kids pass\die, but i know i can call him if i need him. And yes i have literally seen and talked with him since he died. Most people wont believe until they have seen it or heard it first hand. I know that didn't answer your question but my whole point was he hurt so many people, us kids, his parent ,his grand kids, even before they were born, and he knows it and feels it everyday. and he had the worst physical pain in committing suicide that you could ever imagine, the question asker(15ahayes) cant even imagine. it dosent matter how you do it, even if one took a couple minutes to die you would feel such uncontrolled pain.

I agree w/Native Spirit, a person goes to place of healing. When incarnated, the person is presented w/similar experiences that drove him/her to complete suicide as an opportunity to learn to cope w/life's challenges.

You are quite young and there is much to learn. You may want to seek professional help instead of perceiving suicide as an option of which is better. It serves no healthy purpose.

Suicide mean the end of this body's existence and the curtailing of further potential experiences it was capable of. I don't think there is any punishment for this on the other side at all; there are a hundred miserable ways to die so why would anyone be singled out for how they went? Why punish someone already in so much pain? Is not suicide just one more way to become a victim to circumstance before your time is up? Some religions claim different but they claim a whole lot of other things I don't buy either.

I was so suicidal when I was young. It was in my mind constantly. But I toughed it out and I'm glad I did.

Life is so blessed now that I have gotten through all those emotions and heartaches. I see the light at the end of the tunnel. I'm so darn proud of what I have accomplished!

Sorry to spoil the fun but it is well known what happens to a suicidal.
As a general rule, firs they spent several years in a region in spiritual world called suicidal´s valey, The time depends how much vital fluid they still have to purge.
After that they are sent to a Rectifier Colony (like an astral city) where they will have lessons and preparation for a new reincarnation. depending on the way they kill themselves they may or may not experience some fragility/disorder in the organs affected by the act suicidal.

Felling displaced in earth is also common since we miss the spiritual world (much better that material world) also some time our tests or atonements are heavy (but always in the right size for us to bear it)

Suicide is the most commom mistake desperate people do to end/solve their problem, big mistake since life doesnot ends! They suffer much more when wake up in the other side and continue to experience the act of suicide over and over agian, the desperation continue and so one!

In the Spirit's Book by Allan Kardec questions: 257;376;758;943
http://www.ssbaltimore.org/PDF/Spirits.pdf

In the The Gospel According to Spiritism by Allan Kardec chap.V §14 e 29; XXVIII §71

Good reading!

Well, I commit suicide in my last life and I didn't have to suicidal valley or a rectifier colony. I was the hardest on myself, judging myself for having failed.

Lauterb, thank you for directing me toward Kardec's works. I have downloaded and started to read the Spirits one already. I will be reading it more than once. But he isn't the only one who have talked with spirits through mediums and just like with living humans, there's more than one opinion and version of the facts among them. That there is some kind of health farm on the other side for the suicide cases seems reasonable enough. That it consists of having to commit suicide over and over ad infinitum is a little bit more fishy. In my opinion. I can't quite imagine an arena filled with millions of people doing exactly hat they are punished for in the first place. That's like punishing adulterers by having them continue eternally with the adultery. If you pardon the pun.

if you suicide you'll end up here for an eternity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-We6WnA8aQ

Hi bubbles i have to disagree with you, i am a medium i have given messages from people who passed through suicide.they are not condemned at all.they go into Healing in the spiritworld.

Namaste

I always had the impression that one who commits suicide may or may not go to a place that matches with the vibration of their feeling state upon death BUT healing and love is always available and can always be accessed. Love and healing is for everyone.

For instance, if I killed myself because I was feeling lonely and helpless, I may end up in a place similar to that experience when I pass through the doorway BUT if I'm open to (which, let's face it, we all are) the possibility of being healed, accepted, and loved I'd be pulled upwards in order to begin a process of soul healing..

I must stress that if it is an illness there are ways to fight it, and that we shouldn't let it overtake us when there are options available.

I say this all with caution. I don't want anyone getting the wrong idea. Always seek out support above all else. It's possible to live a Heaven on Earth. Just as we would heal after physical life, we can heal here too and we should always strive for that... we all have a reason/purpose for being here.

If anyone reading this has thoughts of suicide please talk to someone or contact

http://www.spsamerica.org/ (1-800-273-8255)
http://www.suicide.org/international...-hotlines.html

it's okay I was just trying to scare the OP not to do anything dumb

Feeling suicidal is a sign of depression and it is better you see a proffessional who will assist you. No one knows what happens to a person who commit suicide and whatever we say is pure speculation.

Disagree (respectfully) shoni. I remember what happened to me after I commit suicide up until I reincarnated into this lifetime.

It depends. People commit suicide for a number of reasons and there are different types of suicide. A person suffering depression may feel freed after having done but then feels remorse and sadness for leaving behind those who really loved them. Other suicides are done out of desperation or accident.

Yes what you say is true but who are we say what a person thinks before they do the act some do it out of desperation,others out of a call for help.i have seen both sides of this as well as being a medium,i am also a councellor .
a lot of people do come through with regret not for themselves but for those left behind. and what they are going through.

Namaste

I still say suicide is a false conception, suicide is defined as killing a life.
The human flesh is not a life. Only you the soul is, & you will not be killing you the soul when you sever the energy connection to the flesh.
The life force of you the being inside the flesh is still alive as you the soul naturaly drifts out of & from within the flesh.

You can still see, hear, speak & remember all of your experiences. &
You will continue on with your life......SO simple.
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On a soul level it is encouraged to live complete lives, but the spirit world is a realm of love, and there is no punishment.

I imagine, the issues surrounding the suicide will be discussed, and it will be a learning experience.

Dear WhiteWarrior

Good for you, I hope you didint skip the introduction, very important to understand how this work was done.

May be I didint express well myself about this regions and why they stay for a period of time there. It is for sure not eternal, there is no such eternal punishement! This period they spent there is to purge the vital energy they have. IThe closest analogy is to spent all the fuel you have in the airplane be fore you crash in ground to avoid explosion! When you reincarnate you have your fuel tank full to live all experiencies you need in this life to meet your needs for evolution.
Lets say you have "fuel" for 80 years and you comit suicide at 60 years old you need to purge this 20 year "fuel" to re equilibrate yourself before continue your path. This doesnot mean you will spend 20 year in this region!

Sorry but the part of living again and again the act of suicide it is a report from several cases of suicides.

There are several cases reported by Allan Kardec in The Spiritist
Magazine edited from 1858 till 1869 and several other books from other authors report the same experience of leaving again and again the sucide act.

Enjoy not only The Spirits Book but all other 4 books from Allan Kardec!

Good reading!

I have a long story I posted on here about this. I believe I did commit suicide in a past life. It's a long story and took about 15 years and dreams, messages to put it altogether. You are here to learn, your harsh circumstances are there to learn from. Betrayal, bullying, lies, slander, poverty, illness, abandonment, abuse, etc are all apart of that learning process. I went through all of that and took my own life. And sure enough, I went through all of it again in this life...I didn't understand why I went through so much, but this life was a little more complicated because of the karma I left by those I hurt when I died. So children left behind, with no mother...could very well be you going through all those hardships in your next life, but now...you have no mother. Which you would have, had you not left children behind. That's an example.

It's all a test of the spirit, the main lesson being the test of the will, learning, understanding, and compassion! forgiveness. I do believe that natural disasters and weather are Gods, or the collective conscious way of naturally taking one when their time is up. What comes around goes around...when someone wrongs you...and you learn to let it go, get past it, forgive and raise your vibrations fully...it does go back to the other person where it came from, so long as you have let that energy fully go with no ulterior motives. Other times, in more extreme cases, it is there for justice...not revenge.

I've heard this
 

When one commits suicide they are given a harder life the next time around.which to me seems odd bc if you can't handle this one how can you deal with a harder one

A long time ago I vaguely knew a man who committed suicide. That is, I hardly knew him at all. May have met him only once or twice. I had a tremendously vivid dream about him one night. In that dream I met him. He knew he had passed, and was content about it. He seemed quite happy and relaxed. He told me he was learning to play the guitar which was what he really wanted to do. Someone was teaching him.

Some time later I spoke to someone who had known this man better. They said he had always wanted to learn to play the guitar but had never got round to it.
I had not known that at all at the time of the dream.

So what did that mean? I don't know....I take it on face value. This guy had committed suicide but was okay. I had no clue what his work might be beyond that, of course, or what 'next life' he might choose. That wasn't my business anyway. But he was quite okay.

I think that we can handle it....but if you look deep inside, it's usually some sort of selfishness or ego that keeps us from accomplishing what we were sent here to do. That's where suicide comes in....not that those people weren't in pain at the time of their death...but there was something ignorant and ego driven that they had to learn...which is implemented into to their next life. In my past life, I was shown that I committed suicide in my early to mid 20s...I'm in my late 30s now...so it can be overcome with learning.

So, if your life was a book....and you ended chapter 2 without reading the whole content....what you didn't learn in chapter 2, you will learn in chapter 3...that's the best way I can describe what I was shown, Chapter 3 has its own lessons and hardships, but you will also bring lessons that you were expected to already know from earlier chapters...or that you haven't completed or overcome. That's why some people seem to have much harder lives than others. . I don't know what the afterlife is like, I guess that depends on the persons energy and flexibility....but it isn't all music and roses in the next incarnating life...I'm sure you all, including myself....can attest to that.

15ahayes, you have a purpose to be here. The Univerese created you for a reason and while you may be unsure of that reason, I believe that whatever the reasoning is, it will be for great things.

Anyhow, discussing my views on suicide and the afterlife, I don't believe that suicide is the answer to any hard problems or as many people say, it is a permanent solution to a temporary problem that will eventually solve itself. Speaking of an afterlife, I don't manner of death determines where we go, but what we do. If we did good things in our time, we would be given eternal life and unity with the universe, but if we did horrible things when we were living, it seems sensible that the universe will punish us for those acts.

All in all, never give up hope, Child of the Universe

PeaceChic

Some become psychotic - lose touch w/reality - their only thought appears to be in ending their life ...
By the time that happens, no amount of rationalizations can prevent it ...
Professional help is needed/required when caught soon enough ...
We all know we will do whatever it takes to prevent any type of pain or harm to come to ourselves, however, if a person is psychotic they have no concern for their life much less pain ...
They can shoot their head off, hang themself, walk into fire or in front of a fast moving train, etc ...
In my 9yrs of being around a few women widowed by suicide, they've all only mentioned a change in their husband's behavior - almost happy or copacetic ...
Their husbands never mentioned or talked openly about suicide ...
The signs of suicide were not realized till after it was completed ...

I don't believe there is a solid rule on this. It all depends on the individual's state of consciousness and past life history, among other things. I once knew a case where the person's spirit guide told him it was time to go, and that's how he went. Mediums said he was just fine. Others have karma, lessons to learn. Some have such troubled consciousness that they create a hellish afterlife, others may not have that. Some people commit suicide by going thought life indulging in all the wrong habits. Others commit suicide because it's meant as a challenge for the people around them, like, say, a kid who takes his life under the influence of some heavy medication and it's meant as a trial in his mother's life. There are endless possibilities as there are numerous individuals all with their particular inner conscious existence with all their unique baggage.

There aren't any rules on suicide, instead, there reasons, proof, speculation & the unknown ...
As far as karma/past life is concerned, not all people are believers ...
As a life long believer in karma/past life, it changed for me when my husband was ruthlessly killed. This has also has been the case for my friends widowed by suicide who were believers ...
Seriously, would you want to live w/guilt your entire life believing you were responsible for someone killing themself or being killed to serve your educational purpose(s) in life?
Personally, I don't believe a spirit guide would tell anyone "it's time to go" for any reason. Spirit guides are to help people complete their spiritual contract ...
And, I seriously doubt a medium would tell anyone, most importantly, the family of the deceased s/he was anything but fine. People visit mediums for therapeutic purposes ...
JMHO ...