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ThatMan 21-05-2019 10:14 AM

The messages I receive
 
So I decided to make here a post where I am going to write all the messages that I receive into my mind:

I am everywhere and everything is an expression of myself and yourself.Don't be afraid of life, everything that happens, happens because it was your choice to happen.

This message came from a voice that was not human but was very familiar to me.I received this message before an OBE.

Keep it in mind.

This is a message came from the same source, same experience, but this time I was in meditation.I was in some kind of transe and this is how I heard it.

It's natural to give humanity a chance.

This message came to me last night, I was in meditation, but this time, I asked someone to talk with me from the spiritual world.This time, it was the voice of a man and I could hear it clearly, it came to me while I was in this transe that comes over me when I receive a message.

inavalan 21-05-2019 08:06 PM

Do you expect some kind of reactions here, or just want to log your messages?

ThatMan 21-05-2019 08:47 PM

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Do you expect some kind of reactions here, or just want to log your messages?


You can write here if you feel like writing, there's no problem, I just want to have a place where to share with you everything I receive, maybe it can help you in a way.

I share with you everything here.I hope there are other people who have similar experiences, maybe we can learn from each other.

Unseeking Seeker 22-05-2019 02:44 AM

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Good stuff ... keep going! :smile:

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Miss Hepburn 24-05-2019 11:35 AM

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Good stuff ... keep going! :smile:
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Yes, so far so good.

ThatMan 28-05-2019 09:48 PM

You're the family of births.

"You" - humanity.This was the voice of a man that had authority.Today I saw this beautiful picture of a child, she had big blue eyes and then few minutes later, while I was in meditation and listening to some meditative music, this is the message I received.The message was crystal clear, I heard it perfectly like I hear people talking in daily life.I asked for more details but nothing came back, it seems that I can receive only one message and that's it.

Aknaton 02-06-2019 05:34 AM

Greetings in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. OP, we thank God for the Gift of discernment of spirits, may He grant it to us when we ask.

The first message is not from God the Creator. It is from a being of the second heaven that appears as light, but of the artificial kind. He appears as though he is good but he is full of deception. his origin is strongly in Yoga and new age circles. This entity won't help you.

The second one Is a wandering spirit of the group of the first spirit in the above message. He is a lesser spirit. They speak as a group.

The third communication is from Jesus Christ.

Allow me to say that it is wise to narrow down the communications and expect them only from God the trinity, the angels, saints, patriarchs and prophets. Investigate orthodox methods and combine them with what you know. But keep your circle small.

Peace and Grace to you.

ImthatIm 10-06-2019 10:08 PM

A life lived can not be hid.

To hide life is no life at all.

Aknaton 11-06-2019 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
A life lived can not be hid.

To hide life is no life at all.


ThatMan, can you understand this?

ThatMan 11-06-2019 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Aknaton
ThatMan, can you understand this?


I've learnt that I have to go the Word of God, there is the all the power and truth, this is what the Word of God says:

Colossians 3:3 "For you are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God."

I am dead to my own flesh and the true life that I have is in Christ, hidden in Him, sealed in Him and by Him.

To all of you, no more messages, with the help of Christ, blessed be His Holy Name, the darkness was defeated and my entire being felt as being born again.I felt directed by Christ to dwell in His Word, every day I read the Word of God.I have no more questions when it comes to His Word, I've learnt to trust Him with my entire being.

I have no words to describe what I've been through, I've seen evil people doing satanic rituals against me, all these people were dressed in black robes and their faces were painted with white, they were worshiping a dead thing, but I am with CHRIST and they have no power over me!!

Ohh... people, if you would know how the evil one is like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour, you would all come to Christ!!

Aknaton 11-06-2019 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
A life lived can not be hid.

To hide life is no life at all.


ImthatIm, am I correct In saying that this message is Mathews 5:14-16?

Aknaton 11-06-2019 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatMan
I've learnt that I have to go the Word of God, there is the all the power and truth, this is what the Word of God says:

Colossians 3:3 "For you are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God."

I am dead to my own flesh and the true life that I have is in Christ, hidden in Him, sealed in Him and by Him.

To all of you, no more messages, with the help of Christ, blessed be His Holy Name, the darkness was defeated and my entire being felt as being born again.I felt directed by Christ to dwell in His Word, every day I read the Word of God.I have no more questions when it comes to His Word, I've learnt to trust Him with my entire being.

I have no words to describe what I've been through, I've seen evil people doing satanic rituals against me, all these people were dressed in black robes and their faces were painted with white, they were worshiping a dead thing, but I am with CHRIST and they have no power over me!!

Ohh... people, if you would know how the evil one is like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour, you would all come to Christ!!


God be praised!

ImthatIm 11-06-2019 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Aknaton
ImthatIm, am I correct In saying that this message is Mathews 5:14-16?


It does fit perfectly with those scriptures.

Those words did come as a message to me as an answer to a question,
so it was directed to me, so I decided to post
it fresh before my mind could corrupt it.

It is directed to no one directly except myself since I was the questioner.
But it felt very universal in nature.

So I passed it on as a blessing.

Edit: I also should add the way I hide is in doubt,hesitation and FEAR.
To walk in a pure form of Love requires a trust that eludes me at times.

I do apologize for just throwing it here but here it landed.

ThatMan 14-06-2019 07:35 PM

I've learnt that you should not trust the spirits in the spiritual world, there are some evil forces there that I can't tell you in words how evil they are.The worst criminal in human history is nothing in comparation with the evil forces from the spiritual world.

This is the vision I received, when this happened, I had an out of body experience, I was in spirit, outside my body, flying around my house, my real house.

In my last vision I saw dozens upon dozens of people dressed in black robes with their faces painted with white, they were doing satanic rituals around my house, yes, dozens upon dozens, if this is what it takes to bring me down, then.... They were carring a dead thing on their shoulders, this was like an idol to them because they were worshiping it.There were others dressed in white and in many different clothes, I can't remember all, I know that I've seen all the satanic cults that are all around the world.I knew that there were the satanists and the freemasons, the people in black robes were the freemasons, they even gave me a message that night: "We are the freemasons..."; when I woke up I still could hear their voice in my mind.. I was not scared, not at all, when they sensed my presence, they started to walk away from my house, they had no power to enter in the area of my house.

This was the day after I was attacked two times by those evil forces.This is why I withdraw what I've said about all the messages I received, I can't tell for sure that they came from God or from these evil forces, one thing I know, they can show themselves as being from Light, so everyone, be very careful!!

I still think about the fact that they need dozens upon dozens of people to attack me when I am only one man, why they need so much power against me? Is it because Christ is with me? I am laughing at them, yes, this is what I fell, no fear, they are thinking that they are working for the Light, when, in truth, they are working for the evil forces, they are blind, all those people who attacked me, they are blind!

I prayed to Christ to help me and He kept me safe from those evil forces, I even heard knocks on my dor, I was almost close to sleep when I heard knocks, they came in cycle of three, knock, knock, knock... knock, knock, knock... knock, knock, knock...333 - another mockery against Christ. The door is exactly near my bed, this scared me but I kept praying to CHRIST and He kept me safe! Many other people prayed for me, so Satan, aka Lucifer, because he is their leader, don't ask me from where I knew, I just know, in the spiritual realm you know things, Christ is with me, I AM NOT ALONE!

ImthatIm 14-06-2019 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatMan
I've learnt that you should not trust the spirits in the spiritual world, there are some evil forces there that I can't tell you in words how evil they are.The worst criminal in human history is nothing in comparation with the evil forces from the spiritual world.

This is the vision I received, when this happened, I had an out of body experience, I was in spirit, outside my body, flying around my house, my real house.

In my last vision I saw dozens upon dozens of people dressed in black robes with their faces painted with white, they were doing satanic rituals around my house, yes, dozens upon dozens, if this is what it takes to bring me down, then.... They were carring a dead thing on their shoulders, this was like an idol to them because they were worshiping it.There were others dressed in white and in many different clothes, I can't remember all, I know that I've seen all the satanic cults that are all around the world.I knew that there were the satanists and the freemasons, the people in black robes were the freemasons, they even gave me a message that night: "We are the freemasons..."; when I woke up I still could hear their voice in my mind.. I was not scared, not at all, when they sensed my presence, they started to walk away from my house, they had no power to enter in the area of my house.

This was the day after I was attacked two times by those evil forces.This is why I withdraw what I've said about all the messages I received, I can't tell for sure that they came from God or from these evil forces, one thing I know, they can show themselves as being from Light, so everyone, be very careful!!

I still think about the fact that they need dozens upon dozens of people to attack me when I am only one man, why they need so much power against me? Is it because Christ is with me? I am laughing at them, yes, this is what I fell, no fear, they are thinking that they are working for the Light, when, in truth, they are working for the evil forces, they are blind, all those people who attacked me, they are blind!

I prayed to Christ to help me and He kept me safe from those evil forces, I even heard knocks on my dor, I was almost close to sleep when I heard knocks, they came in cycle of three, knock, knock, knock... knock, knock, knock... knock, knock, knock...333 - another mockery against Christ. The door is exactly near my bed, this scared me but I kept praying to CHRIST and He kept me safe! Many other people prayed for me, so Satan, aka Lucifer, because he is their leader, don't ask me from where I knew, I just know, in the spiritual realm you know things, Christ is with me, I AM NOT ALONE!


Many people it seems are tricked by this false light. As in your experience of the painted faces. A mask to hide what is underneath.
The true Light of God comes with Divine Love emanating from it.

Please do not let these type of things trouble your heart and mind. Please don't dwell on the dark side.
Just except these things are around and we need to focus on the Love of God through Christ by the Holy Spirit.
Please don't let doubt and fear arise about these things.They want a door of doubt or fear to enter.
The Love of God is greater and Christ's Love is greater.

ThatMan 15-06-2019 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
Many people it seems are tricked by this false light. As in your experience of the painted faces. A mask to hide what is underneath.
The true Light of God comes with Divine Love emanating from it.

Please do not let these type of things trouble your heart and mind. Please don't dwell on the dark side.
Just except these things are around and we need to focus on the Love of God through Christ by the Holy Spirit.
Please don't let doubt and fear arise about these things.They want a door of doubt or fear to enter.
The Love of God is greater and Christ's Love is greater.


Yes, many are... Thank you, yes, I am not, but I feel that I have to tell people the good and the bad, to know that they have to test the spirits the ones from our world and the ones from the spiritual world, just like it is written in 1 John 4:1.

ImthatIm 16-06-2019 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ThatMan
Yes, many are... Thank you, yes, I am not, but I feel that I have to tell people the good and the bad, to know that they have to test the spirits the ones from our world and the ones from the spiritual world, just like it is written in 1 John 4:1.


I understand.
I am glad you are strong in faith.

ThatMan 16-06-2019 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
I understand.
I am glad you are strong in faith.


May I ask how do you receive messages? I have my own style but I am not doing it anymore, from time to time, I still receive messages, but I ignore them and I remember nothing about them.I also stopped to meditate because when I meditate I become like a magnet for spiritual things.. and I don't like it because I've seen the true face of the evil forces and I don't want to see it again, it's horrible.

I've learnt that if you are not strong in the Truth, you can be deceived so easily...you would believe anything and listen to anybody... You really need to know the line from lies and Truth.Now, I question every experience that I have, no more blind faith, if I ever meet a spirit once again, if that spirit does not confess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, than that spirit is evil.

ImthatIm 16-06-2019 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatMan
May I ask how do you receive messages? I have my own style but I am not doing it anymore, from time to time, I still receive messages, but I ignore them and I remember nothing about them.I also stopped to meditate because when I meditate I become like a magnet for spiritual things.. and I don't like it because I've seen the true face of the evil forces and I don't want to see it again, it's horrible.

I've learnt that if you are not strong in the Truth, you can be deceived so easily...you would believe anything and listen to anybody... You really need to know the line from lies and Truth.Now, I question every experience that I have, no more blind faith, if I ever meet a spirit once again, if that spirit does not confess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, than that spirit is evil.


I can receive messages in many ways.
It is not something I attempt to have any control over.
I attempt to stay surrendered to God and his will.
It is more of a inner sensing to follow the Heart.
Using Gods Love as my compass.

But asking God is always a good practice.
It is a growth process or a stripping away, down to the core being and
operating from Heart and the Spirit of Gods Love.
Paying attention to the subtle hints helps.

Staying in peace and focusing on the good thing of God and Truth.

Your path will be determined by your steps and choices and
the more surrendered to God and more and more becoming a Son
as your identity helps in a big way.

Christ's commandment: Love God with all your Heart, Mind and Soul and Love your neighbor as yourself.

This is a mighty task and one worthy of ones life.

To rest into Christ and take direction from the Holy Spirit of God is a worthy practice.:smile:

ThatMan 16-06-2019 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
I can receive messages in many ways.
It is not something I attempt to have any control over.
I attempt to stay surrendered to God and his will.
It is more of a inner sensing to follow the Heart.
Using Gods Love as my compass.

But asking God is always a good practice.
It is a growth process or a stripping away, down to the core being and
operating from Heart and the Spirit of Gods Love.
Paying attention to the subtle hints helps.

Staying in peace and focusing on the good thing of God and Truth.

Your path will be determined by your steps and choices and
the more surrendered to God and more and more becoming a Son
as your identity helps in a big way.

Christ's commandment: Love God with all your Heart, Mind and Soul and Love your neighbor as yourself.

This is a mighty task and one worthy of ones life.

To rest into Christ and take direction from the Holy Spirit of God is a worthy practice.:smile:


I see, thank you! The most difficult thing is to surrender to God and His will, we are mad when it comes to controling our own life, firstly, we chose our way and finally, if it does not work again and again ( we keep on chosing our own ways untill we have no other option ), then we choose another way, sometimes the way of God, the True way.How do you manage to stay in the Love of God when around you is negativity, hate and evil? It's very difficult for me, I feel drained and overwhelmed by the evil of other people, I feel like I become just like them by simply being around them.The thing is that you can't change people and also you can't accept their evil for the sake of love, this is not love.Some people are evil and have no desire to come into the Light, while reading the Word of God I found out that in such cases, it's better to go away from such people.

ImthatIm 17-06-2019 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatMan
I see, thank you! The most difficult thing is to surrender to God and His will, we are mad when it comes to controling our own life, firstly, we chose our way and finally, if it does not work again and again ( we keep on chosing our own ways untill we have no other option ), then we choose another way, sometimes the way of God, the True way.How do you manage to stay in the Love of God when around you is negativity, hate and evil? It's very difficult for me, I feel drained and overwhelmed by the evil of other people, I feel like I become just like them by simply being around them.The thing is that you can't change people and also you can't accept their evil for the sake of love, this is not love.Some people are evil and have no desire to come into the Light, while reading the Word of God I found out that in such cases, it's better to go away from such people.


The practice of Gratefulness is of great value.

Even when feeling ungrateful and being pulled into others negativity.
We can stop and start thanking God and listing all the things we can be grateful for,
and we can also see that God sees and provides for others the same as us.

Then there is forgiveness.
We can see how God forgives us and then we can see others deserve the same forgiveness.

We see that God cannot but help Loving others as he Loves us.(God is Love)

I often ask myself " Am I seeing the glass half empty or half full?"
I can only be giving out of fullness.
It is a matter of changing ones mind. (repenting) Not getting into sorrow but as a child learning.
Repetition, repetition!

Find those simple things that you can practice that work for you.
The more you change negative into positive the heart changes and softens.

ThatMan 23-06-2019 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ImthatIm
The practice of Gratefulness is of great value.

Even when feeling ungrateful and being pulled into others negativity.
We can stop and start thanking God and listing all the things we can be grateful for,
and we can also see that God sees and provides for others the same as us.

Then there is forgiveness.
We can see how God forgives us and then we can see others deserve the same forgiveness.

We see that God cannot but help Loving others as he Loves us.(God is Love)

I often ask myself " Am I seeing the glass half empty or half full?"
I can only be giving out of fullness.
It is a matter of changing ones mind. (repenting) Not getting into sorrow but as a child learning.
Repetition, repetition!

Find those simple things that you can practice that work for you.
The more you change negative into positive the heart changes and softens.


I see, thank you for your answer! This is very hard for me, you know, in the midst of negativity and evil is very hard to see the light...

ThatMan 23-06-2019 04:55 PM

Another message, check this post http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...d.php?t=130085 to find out more.

He has already responded to anything you would ever ask for.

ThatMan 24-06-2019 11:10 AM

I just received more messages, it seemst that I become better at knowing the sources.

So the first one came from a voice that was screaming, like it was in pain, with this voice I also saw an image where many people were worshiping God, this voice said something like this:

Don't put your trust in God, don't put your trust in God!!!!

This was from an entity that had hate towards the Creator and christianity and could not stand that people are really loving the Creator.Those people that I saw were christians.This voice was screaming towards those people.

The second message was more like a worshiping message, I heard the voice of an old man, a christian, that was worshiping God, this man was a priest, sadly I can't remember much but this is how it started: Glory to You, O, Lord.. The worshiping was very beautiful and I forgot to pay attention to the words...

Both messages came in my native language so I assume they are connected with my own country.The christian people that I saw were like the christians from my country, and the priest spoke in my own language, he had a very peaceful and pleasant voice, he was an old man, I just know these things..

Dargor 24-06-2019 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ThatMan
Don't put your trust in God, don't put your trust in God!!!!


That thing is actually right. I also used to trust God a long time ago, which turned out to be a major letdown. Who knows this thing just tries to objectively warn people.

ThatMan 24-06-2019 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SlayerOfLight
That thing is actually right. I also used to trust God a long time ago, which turned out to be a major letdown. Who knows this thing just tries to objectively warn people.


The thing is that this message was hateful, that voice was screaming, like it was in pain, in pain because those people had love for God and this entity had no love, only hate.

Dargor 24-06-2019 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatMan
The thing is that this message was hateful, that voice was screaming, like it was in pain, in pain because those people had love for God and this entity had no love, only hate.


Said thing must have had a terrible life then, as you don't just hate someone or something without a reason. Oh well, nothing we can do about it. That thing is on it's own just like the rest of us.

ThatMan 24-06-2019 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SlayerOfLight
Said thing must have had a terrible life then, as you don't just hate someone or something without a reason. Oh well, nothing we can do about it. That thing is on it's own just like the rest of us.


You can hate someone only because that someone has something you don't have, this is the hate I felt.

Aknaton 28-06-2019 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ThatMan
The thing is that this message was hateful, that voice was screaming, like it was in pain, in pain because those people had love for God and this entity had no love, only hate.


Oh yes, that message is from lucifer the devil, he always seems to sound angry. The thing with his voice is he talks rash and doesn't confirm when you ask twice or three times.

Dargor 28-06-2019 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Aknaton
Oh yes, that message is from lucifer the devil, he always seems to sound angry. The thing with his voice is he talks rash and doesn't confirm when you ask twice or three times.


2019 and some adults still believe in a red man with a pitchfork… *sigh*

ketzer 28-06-2019 12:06 PM

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The thing is that this message was hateful, that voice was screaming, like it was in pain, in pain because those people had love for God and this entity had no love, only hate.


Perhaps? Or perhaps this entity also, "used to trust God a long time ago, which turned out to be a major letdown," and now it is hurt, angry, and feels it cannot trust God anymore. Perhaps the calls are coming from inside the house? Perhaps it is time you answered them and talked it out, as I suspect until you resolve it, the calls are going to keep coming, and they are not calls you want to be getting.

Trusting God does not mean trusting that God will do what we want or what we believe is good. It means trusting that what happens to us is in the long term, ultimately for our benefit, whether or not it seems so in the present moment. Jesus did not hang upon the cross and say "what the %$#@ is this, I hate you father" no, he said, "thy will be done," and trusted that his suffering was worth it?

Our lives, though they be so dearly felt and held by us, are but the single firing of one neuron in the infinite mind of God. The image that all those neurons firing together create in the third eye of God is well beyond our limited human capacity to understand. But, we can have faith that it is an image of beauty, and goodness.

ThatMan 28-06-2019 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SlayerOfLight
2019 and some adults still believe in a red man with a pitchfork… *sigh*


You never met him that's why, it's ok, I used to be just like you but once you meet the evil face to face, the worst criminal in history is nothing in comparation with the absolute evil, remember this expression: "absolute evil".

Dargor 28-06-2019 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatMan
You never met him that's why, it's ok, I used to be just like you but once you meet the evil face to face, the worst criminal in history is nothing in comparation with the absolute evil, remember this expression: "absolute evil".


Children have the boogeyman to scare them into good behavior, while adults have the devil to keep them in line.

You know where absolute evil comes from? Humans... Hell is not thousands of kilometers below the ground, but right here on the surface. And we are the demons themselves.

ThatMan 28-06-2019 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SlayerOfLight
Children have the boogeyman to scare them into good behavior, while adults have the devil to keep them in line.

You know where absolute evil comes from? Humans... Hell is not thousands of kilometers below the ground, but right here on the surface. And we are the demons themselves.


Well, I know what I've seen and heard, it's not my imagintion.I see that your profile image is a pentagram with the symbol of the baphomet god, if you would know the truth, you would not use them, this is a satanic symbol.Once, while I was in spirit, outside my body, flying around my house, I saw dozens upon dozens of satanists, freemasons and all the other occult cults doing rituals around my house, these were human beings, real human beings worshiping the evil.You know what I've heard that night, a message from them: "WE ARE THE FREEMASONS". I heard it like I hear people talking in real life.

Dargor 28-06-2019 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatMan
Well, I know what I've seen and heard, it's not my imagintion.I see that your profile image is a pentagram with the symbol of the baphomet god, if you would know the truth, you would not use them, this is a satanic symbol.Once, while I was in spirit, outside my body, flying around my house, I saw dozens upon dozens of satanists, freemasons and all the other occult cults doing rituals around my house, these were human beings, real human beings worshiping the evil.You know what I've heard that night, a message from them: "WE ARE THE FREEMASONS". I heard it like I hear people talking in real life.


My profile picture is from a metal band called Slayer, and no they aren't satanists.

Suppose your experience was real (I'm sceptical by nature, forgive me) then what you saw was just a bunch of idiots wasting their precious time by worshipping an imagination figure. Nothing scary about it at all.

ThatMan 28-06-2019 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SlayerOfLight
My profile picture is from a metal band called Slayer, and no they aren't satanists.

Suppose your experience was real (I'm sceptical by nature, forgive me) then what you saw was just a bunch of idiots wasting their precious time by worshipping an imagination figure. Nothing scary about it at all.


I see.. A first hand experience changes everything... To tell you more I also received messages about Lucifer aka Satan, yes, this is the name those voices used but I am sceptical to even talk about them, why? They were hiding from me, these beings were hidding, I felt their presence but I could not see them.This happened in the last 7 days and it happened two times.I was in deep meditation when I heard these voices talking in my mind.

Dargor 28-06-2019 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatMan
I see.. A first hand experience changes everything... To tell you more I also received messages about Lucifer aka Satan, yes, this is the name those voices used but I am sceptical to even talk about them, why? They were hiding from me, these beings were hidding, I felt their presence but I could not see them.This happened in the last 7 days and it happened two times.I was in deep meditation when I heard these voices talking in my mind.


There's an explanation for everything. Of course, if you meditate for a long time in total silence with an empty mind you are certain to experience things and hear voices... But it's all in the brain. For example, if you look into a mirror for a long time, your face will become creepy and distorted. Keep that up even longer, and your face will look demonic. It's called the troxler effect. I'm usually in a meditative state of mind before I go to sleep and sometimes I feel an invisible presence around me as if I'm being watched. But recently I just ignore it and stop caring about it because it's most likely just my mind fooling me. It's a scientific fact that such things happen.

ThatMan 28-06-2019 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SlayerOfLight
There's an explanation for everything. Of course, if you meditate for a long time in total silence with an empty mind you are certain to experience things and hear voices... But it's all in the brain. For example, if you look into a mirror for a long time, your face will become creepy and distorted. Keep that up even longer, and your face will look demonic. It's called he troxler effect. I'm usually in a meditative state of mind before I go to sleep and sometimes I feel an invisible presence around me as if I'm being watched. But recently I just ignore it and stop caring about it because it's most likely just my mind fooling me. It's a scientific fact that such things happen.


I know about that thing, I did the test with the mirror when I was a child :)) when I was like 3-5 years old I saw myself for the first time in a mirror, I was shocked, I could not believe that I have a "body" in my mind I was just a point of awareness.I could see my body, you know, hands and so on but it never crossed my mind that this is a real body, well until I saw myself in the mirror.

Science can explain many things but not everything, some things go beyond science...

ketzer 28-06-2019 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatMan
You never met him that's why, it's ok, I used to be just like you but once you meet the evil face to face, the worst criminal in history is nothing in comparation with the absolute evil, remember this expression: "absolute evil".


We can never experience anything unless we first create it within our own consciousness. We may bring in information from outside of our consciousness, but what we create we form from ourselves and color it with ourselves. We animate it and give it meaning, and though others may have provided input, in the end it is our own creation and an expression of, and a part of, ourselves.
You are quite right to be afraid of this thing you have met. Such parts of us are hidden within all (most??) of us whether we care to admit it or not. We try to keep them hidden and deny their existence, but they are our birthright whether we wanted them or not. If we deny parts of ourselves vehemently enough for long enough they can start to seem like someone or something else. Something apart from us and outside of our ability to influence or control. But until we bring them out into the light, admit they exist, and acknowledge who they really are and deal with them as such, they will lurk in the shadows of our being waiting for their moment to surface and fight for control.

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(11) Jesus said, "This heaven will pass away, and the one above it will pass away. The dead are not alive, and the living will not die. In the days when you consumed what is dead, you made it what is alive. When you come to dwell in the light, what will you do? On the day when you were one you became two. But when you become two, what will you do?"
(61) Jesus said, "Two will rest on a bed: the one will die, and the other will live." Salome said, "Who are you, man, that you ... have come up on my couch and eaten from my table?" Jesus said to her, "I am he who exists from the undivided. I was given some of the things of my father." <...> "I am your disciple." <...> "Therefore I say, if he is destroyed, he will be filled with light, but if he is divided, he will be filled with darkness."
The Gospel of Thomas

ketzer 28-06-2019 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SlayerOfLight
... then what you saw was just a bunch of idiots wasting their precious time by worshipping an imagination figure. Nothing scary about it at all.


True it doesn’t seem so scary at first glance. The trouble is, they don't always limit themselves to simply worshipping their imagination figures. Eventually they grow tired of wasting their precious time start trying to find ways to appease them. Those ways generally involve punishing those who don't believe and don't worship as they do. Before you know it they are laying siege to the walls of Jericho and then storming in to kill with the sword “every living thing in it—men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep and donkeys”. Or, perhaps forming themselves into armies and crusading across the land slaughtering everything in their path. Or perhaps they are hijacking planes full of people and flying them into buildings full of people.
They deny the existence of the devil within themselves and so they have no awareness or control over it when it comes to the surface and starts on a rampage of evil. When their own darkness surfaces to take over their minds, they fail to recognize it as such, and every dark thought they think begins to appear as light, and every dark impulse of their own will becomes contorted to look like the will of God. Driven by their own disowned evil within, they set out to hunt down and destroy an imagined evil enemy out there. They are driven by a need to find one and always seem to manage to do so. And so once again the world burns as they go off to battle, killing person after person, and never understanding why they can’t ever seem to win their war. It’s the “devil” they say, he is strong, but we have God on our side, we will defeat him in the end if we don’t give up.

“Look, over there, I think I see one of his demons now. It is trying to hide as something innocent. I am not fooled. I know evil when I see it. I will go and slay it in the name of the Lord. Take that demon! Praise be to God, Allah Akbar, and all that Jazz.”

Just another day in the army of the righteous. A bunch of nuts dancing or chanting around a fire, be it a bonfire or a single candle, may not seem frightening, but put it into the context of the history of the human race, and there is plenty of genuine evil there to be absolutely afraid of.


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