Tunnel or hallucination?
 

I’m not sure if this is the correct forum to post this. I’m still not sure what it was…

When I was 17 I had tonsillitis, strep throat and the flu all at the same time. I remember getting up from the couch about 2 or 3 in the morning. Went to the restroom and after I was finished I turned to look in the mirror to see how bad I looked; but the mirror wasn’t there. A tunnel opened up directly in front of me; pulsating, alive. It looked like lightning or a kind of white energy interwoven around the outer edges of a black tunnel. In the center of this thing was a pinpoint of white light; which became extremely dominate within a fraction of a second. Then I felt a rushing sensation as if I was being forced through the tunnel at a great speed. I was scared out of my mind and all I could do was close my eyes and shake my head to try and get rid of it. But when I close my eyes it was still there. I fell up against the china cabinet we kept our towels in; still shaking my head. Finally the image faded and I made my way back to the couch not able to see a thing. I sat there for I know a good 20 minutes until my eyesight returned.

You know, I never really thought about it for many years, I just blew it off as a hallucination. But now I’m not so sure. I can still see the image as if it just happened.

Any input would be appreciated.
Greg

a spiritual experience...

This also sounds a lot like what some people see when they are astral traveling. Some travel through "starry tunnels". It seems to me when people are sick they are more likely to have conscious astral travels or OBE's.

This was only hallucination my friend and nothing else

Yeah, I think supernova is probably right. I have had OBE's and have never seen anything like it during my travels.

Thanx for the input. Just thought someone might have had a similar experience.

Greg

Tunnel or hallucination or gift...
I'll go with Shabda as usual - you were gifted with a spiritual
experience that may have been also
an OBE, out of body.
It's fun to have these supernatural experiences, huh?
:smile:
I think all hallucinations are real, btw. I love 'em, esp. with fevers.

Hey Xan, I’ll tell you, it sure felt like I was being pulled somewhere. I remember it very well; it was all I could do to hold on. I actually lost my eyesight and my senses for awhile, and I was so disoriented it took me hours to focus my thoughts.
I have read some on NDE’s and was hoping to maybe get some comparisons. I know with some things, at least for me it’s easier understood hearing it from someone who has gone through it. I’m very interested in the subtleties that people seem to remember.

Thank you Xan, any insight is greatly appreciated.
Greg

To be honest it really scared me. I think because I expected to see my reflection in the mirror; instead I saw a tunnel that looked like it was alive. But yes, afterwords, it was very humbling, and pretty awesome. I drew a picture of it many years ago, but since I’m a newbie I don’t believe I can post pix yet; but will do so after that time has passed. And I know what you mean about being sick; every time I get the flu or even the common cold I have what feels like deja vu on and off the entire time.

Thanx so much Miss Hepburn ,
Greg

I've seen that tunnel, GregoryScott. I woke up in it with my conscious self moving at an incredible speed toward a pinpoint of light that grew in size the closer I got to it. The tunnel was huge and seemed to be horizontal with "stuff" whirling around the inside perimeter of it. I felt free and elated while racing along until someone put the thought in my mind, "If you go into the light, you will not return". With that, I was instantly back in my body, back in my room as if nothing had happend. I had no idea what I had just experienced but, I knew it was real.

A few years after, when I was watching a talk show, a doctor named Elizabeth Kubler Ross was talking about her book on death and dying and "tunnels" and that's when I found out what the tunnel was. I remember gulping a little as I listened.

Oh .. and it only got scary after the thought was put into my mind about entering the light.

:wink: Miss Hepburn

This "starry tunnel" happens to me before I go to sleep sometimes. I love when it happens because when it does I always sleep well and have good dreams. I haven't astral projected before (I think), but it's pretty awesome when it happens.

When this happens to me I usually don't feel pulled into it though, more like pulled away and into the universe, like I'm backing out of this world and out of the galaxy and out of the universe to where I can just see everything swirling and all the lights and stars shining so colorful. It's beautiful. Then I pass out completely and start dreaming.

I also remember feeling the fear if I reached the destination of this light that it would put an end to this life. I had NO idea as to what was happening; one minute I was standing in my bathroom, somewhat conscious and the next thing I know I look into the mirror and this tunnel appears out of nowhere. I can still see the entire scene as if it just happened; this tunnel seemed alive, like a living entity. I’m curious, when you experienced this occurrence, did you get the impression the outer part of the tunnel was heaving in and out, like it was breathing? That’s what in meant when I said it seemed alive to me. And what looked like lightning pulsating and firing around the outer walls of the tunnel made if feel even more so. One thing I’ll never forget, the light at the end of the tunnel was one of the most beautiful things I’d ever witnessed; there are no words.

Thank you for shearing this; something in me knew this was a real experience.

Greg

I was inside the tunnel and could not see the outer part of it. As I traveled through what seemed the center of it, the inner-wall was whirling so fast I couldn't make out what the "stuff" was that was in this inner wall. I felt as if the stuff was other travelers ?? The light was .... I don't have the words for that. It was a heavenly, living light and these words aren't enough to explain it. The light was the stuff of all life. I could have bathed in it.
Yes. You had a real experience

The Knowing... :smile:

That's an amazing experience

It was a hallucination. It was also physically inside your head. You can tell that because you closed your eyes and it was still there.

Non of this means you are crazy, just that you saw something that did not use your bodies eyes. You might even find it was connected to the illness you had. As soon as the illness goes away, so too does the hallucination or vice versa.

Many people can not tell the difference between the body and themselves. So when something like this happens, they think it has something to do with the brain, no not at all. You just simply stopped using the body to see and projected your own image of something that was troubling you. Should you ever see that again, you will probably get sick again or already be sick. The harder and more real it looks, the sicker you will become.

Dimensional Experience
 

It is understandable that a spontaneous experience such as this would be startling. Heck, it is often startling even when we are trying to have them. I bet it was frightening while you were waiting for your eyesight to normalize.

I don’t think it was a hallucination. It was likely a dimensional conduit or portal. You probably accessed it because you had been asleep awakening when you were still in a theta state. You were fully in the moment focusing on your self more than you usually would given your illnesses so these 2 things probably meshed to give you access to something you normally don’t access. Theta is like a very advanced meditation state. We access it twice when sleeping & can connect w/ other Ds very easily when in it.

When I was in a big energy growth period I told my spiritual team that it was OK to push my experiences a bit past my comfort level so long as they were safe for my physical & nonphysical body as I was eager to proceed w/ these. One night I recalled the experience of returning back to Earth through a tunnel very similar to what you describe. What I saw was a semi-opaque white flexible ‘tube’ that I perceived as being light, but w/ a definite structure to it that was some sort of portal. I didn’t see the pinpoint of white light in the center, but I probably wouldn’t have as I was not in a position to do so. I was laying down on my back, legs together, w/ my hands folded on my stomach hurdling through this tube that wasn’t much bigger than me feet first at an extremely high speed. It was comfortable. I could see through the white light tube to multiple pretty galaxies in the distance as I zoomed by. I perceived that it was some sort of dimensional travel. I remember thinking, WOW, that was REALLY zippy!

Theta images can have the ability to remain w/ us long after even the most vivid dream image or transitory hallucination would have likely faded as they are real experiences.

Thank you to everyone who responding to this post.

I’m going to be honest. After it happened I just explained it away as a hallucination; end of story. It all changed at the age 21 when I started meditating. Truthfully when I began my meditation practice, it was for health reasons alone. Yes, I had read about some of the spiritual experiences that can occur during this practice; but my rational mind never really believed them. But I’ll tell you what, the first time you’re standing there and you see your body lying on the bed knowing you are 100 percent conscious; it really forces you to change your mind; and I mean quick!

And Mattie, it did; it scared me like you wouldn’t believe. I understand what you’re saying about being in a Theta state; and have had many experiences to understand that’s probably how it happened. And as Scottmana said, my sickness must have triggered this experience to occur. But why; I still don’t know…

I gotta say Mattie, you’re much braver than I am. During my experiences I’ve always stayed close to home, or as you said, I had always stayed within my comfort zones. Of course I regret this now.

WOW is right! This tunnel you saw; well, what do you think it was? Do you think you were at a vast distance from Earth; or perhaps a portal to another dimension? That’s curious… Is it possible the soul itself has to travel this way to reach a far off destination??? I sort of understand the transition for the soul as if severs ties with the physical body, and how it has to travel from this dimension to the next via tunnel/portal. Okay, maybe I don’t understand it completely, but have read enough about it to know that this is what occurs; just curious what you think.


Greg

Natural Fear About Unknown Experience
 

It would have scared me too to the max if I lost my vision for 20 minutes. This loss of vision would scare me seriously right now even if it was connected w/ another energetic experience that I wasn’t fearful of, so don’t criticize your self for this throwing you. I would have also thought it was a hallucination & wondered what the #@%~ had just happened.

LOL about the seeing your self w/ an OBE. Yep, that can really change your view about that. You KNOW it is a real experience. Nothing like that first hand been there, done that!!! I had a distinct spontaneous OBE when I was a teenager, seeing myself & the other person in the room as if I was right at the ceiling watching it all, but not seeing any body that was seeing it. As it was in the context of, umm, doing very some late 1960s type of partying, I thought the OBE was just a random effect of that. Years later I learned about OBEs & APing!

I used to worry about all sorts of stuff APing like it being problematic coming down into a power line or trees. LOL. Not a concern.

I wouldn’t say I was/am particularly brave. More like just curious. Any perceived bravery is just my belief that during such an adventure I can’t be hurt. Whether this is correct or not I don’t know, but this belief allows me to have an experience like this w/o fear. I’m very visually oriented, so the visual aspect of it is fascinating & appreciated as great eye candy. I would have been willing to have spent all night zooming around looking at the galaxies through that tube.

Don’t beat your self up about coudda, shoudda, etc. Anything that you didn’t experience is still a door ready to be opened. We should only proceed w/ what is our comfort level.

I really don’t know what the tunnel was. It seemed like some sort of energetic portal or wormhole. I got the impression it was some sort of dimensional travel, but I’m not sure. It could have been a visit to another galaxy or something. I did get the impression that it was a vast distance from Earth whatever kind of travel it was as it seemed that I saw several distant galaxies through the tube. I was more curious about where I had been than the journey back though! LOL. Of course, the lesson in that experience could have been the journey, not the destination. I really don’t spend allot of time thinking about it other than having a fond partial memory of a fun little excursion.

As we expand our awareness we have all types of abilities unfold. One of these is remembering our nocturnal journeys. I have, as do many others, snippets of these come through in conscious recollection. We will progressively remember more of them. As I’m visually oriented what comes through as a gateway ability for me is often the visual stuff. For those who are oriented to be telepathic, their gateway is probably more telepathic.

We are just beginning to scratch the surface about Universal energies & how they operate. It is likely that our scientists will learn, if they haven’t already done so that there are energetic portals that can be utilized. They may have already passed this threshold, but the information is still classified. There are various ancient legends where they talk about energy portals where people came & went. I think I recall one such legend being in the US SW.

I'd love to see your artwork when able.
It sure sounds like an NDE ~ my grandmother had a very similar experience ~ they had already called my mom to the hospital because they thought she was gone, but she wasn't. Before this tunnel / grid experience, she had always been afraid of death. She told my mom that after that, she was no longer afraid to die.

NDE
 

Is it common for the NDE tunnel like experience be triggered by an illness such as the flu, strep throat, & tonsillitis? While having these all at the same time would be being very sick, it probably wasn’t life threatening for a 17 year old.

There really is SO much that we just don’t know... It’s mind-boggling. I would have loved to have seen what you saw! Astronomy has always been my passion. Even when I was a child; in school, I remember never having to study for any kind of exam regarding outer space.

The closest I’ve come to this kind of experience was; this past December I had a dream I was hovering over the planet. I was with someone that I couldn’t see; we were just floating there looking down. At one point I turned around and looked and could see the center of the galaxy. I could see this big white mass surrounded by billions of stars. It all seemed so vivid and so alive; it was truly breath-taking! All of the sudden I was right there beside a Neutron Star, speeding its way to our solar system. I asked the being what was happening, he said we were about to become a Binary-Star system.

I just wish I were conscious during this ordeal. I didn’t know what had happened until I woke up; but remembered everything in perfect detail.

Sorry I got off subject, your experience just reminded me of this dream; I had almost forgotten it.

Greg

Not a problem. Although I’m not an artist so don’t expect too much. I’ll look for it and try and post it today.

Did your grandmother experience anything else beside the tunnel/grid? Like maybe loved ones? My father had a car accident about five years back. The doctors said he died a few times during multiple operations he underwent. Anyway, he said he never saw a tunnel but had conversations with some relatives that have passed. He also said he felt at peace; and like your grandmother has no fear of death.

Greg

Okay, this is my drawing of the tunnel that appeared in front of me that night. I’m not an artist so I just did the best I could. I would like to say I did a Photoshop adjustment to the tunnel. All I did was invert the color of just the tunnel; everything that I drew black was actually some kind of white energy. Just thought you’d get a better idea as to what it is I saw.

Greg

Greg, I have just read your fascinating experience and I think you have done an excellent job of the drawing.
I wanted to comment because when I first saw your drawing it seemed to trigger a split-second feeling of familiarity, like I had seen something very similar before. I can't put my finger on it exactly. Maybe I have seen it or something like it on t.v or in a movie, but the memory does seem to be more profound than that. I did experience the start of a spontaneous OBE a couple of months back and for some reason it made me think of that even though I didn't see any tunnels or the like during the experience. Weird!
Thanks for sharing :smile:

The only info I had about my grandmother's experience was 2nd-hand thru my mom. That's all she said about it. I'm thinking maybe my grandmother didn't get far enough into the tunnel to realize that maybe there are angels or welcoming souls/spirits and the love she felt was enough to comfort her into no longer being afraid to die. That's a great piece of artwork you did.

Mattie, I probably shouldve said an Obe, but people can and do die suddenly at all ages so I guess how will we ever know how close we've come...there's no telling but yeah, at least an obe...

Thanx, I just wish I was a better artist, my portrait doesn’t do what I actually saw justice. For my mind to create something so complex without ever seeing anything like it before just doesn’t seem plausible to me. It appeared too intelligent like it served a purpose... That's just my thoughts.

Something that I’ve been wondering recently; if I hadn’t looked into the mirror would I have even seen this tunnel? I ask this because my eyesight seemed fine up to that point. It was the precise second that I turned around and looked into the mirror that this thing appeared. It looked like it came out of the mirror then engulfed my vision completely.

Yeah, I’ve had a few OBE’s, but don’t remember seeing anything like that again; I’m not saying others don’t. Sometimes I see flashes of multi-colored lights followed by a popping sound, but that was completely different from the tunnel.

Was that your first almost OBE, or have you had others?

Thank you for your response Rainbowcrow :hug3:
Greg

I’ve had a few people ask me what it felt like; if I experienced a peaceful feeling. But to be honest I don’t remember; I’m almost positive if I had handled it a little better and didn’t panic I would have sensed something more… One thing I do remember was a rushing sensation; I was being pulled (sucked) through this tunnel at what felt to be a VERY high rate of speed. I remember not wanting to reach the light for fear I would die.

I have experienced that peace during meditation and during an AP. Once my soul left my physical body and I was able to see this transformation occur, I lost all fear of death as well. Of course I’m sure this is the case with everyone who has this kind of experience.

Silvergirl, I’ll be sure to tell my father about your grandmother’s experience. After his return from the other-side he has been fascinated with others who’ve experienced what he went through.

Thanx for sharing,
Greg

Hi Greg,
yes, that was my first 'almost' OBE, I have recently brought some books on OBEs and APing, so I hope to have more experiences. It has actually taken some time for me to get my head around my OBE experience and I really want to make sure that I work through the 'fear' side of it all before having a conscious attempt at achieving another. I have to say though, the complete awe I have for the spontaneous experience has really overridden much of the fear, but I want to feel totally confident before I experience something similar again.
The way in which you talk about your 'tunnel' experience sounds very similar to how I felt about my OBE. There is just the sense that it happened for a reason and that there is no way that my 'brain' could have created such a detailed reality - and that's the point, it was just so damned REAL!! I know that what I felt and saw was not as simple as a hallucination or a dream - it was a very profound experience on a conscious level. I also felt like it was an experience that I HAD to HAVE for whatever reason.
Whether you would have had the experience if you hadn't of looked into the mirror, I don't know, but you DID have the experience and I think that's all that counts. The fact that it has got you exploring beyond physical reality and into the deep, dark depths of consciousness, I think is a really important factor since, in my opinion, I really believe that these things happen for a reason. I was wondering, and forgive me if you have mentioned this in an earlier post, but have you found any accounts of others who have had a similar experience to yours? It certainly would be interesting to be able to 'compare notes' and see if the mirror was in fact some sort of 'trigger'. Your experience really does fascinate me, especially since it compares so well to NDEs.

rc xo

have you had any creative inspiration, save the art, from this experience?

Remembering More & More
 

You were probably w/ your guide. Perhaps viewing a future event?
In Old Timer's description of what sounds like the NDE tunnel he mentions getting a telepathic instruction if he went further he would not come back. Both sound like energy work w/ your guide(s). What I described was some sort of energy work too. I just can't remember any more about it than I described though. I didn't recall interacting w/ a guide in the portion I recalled.

Check out the NASA pics. These are often useful for jogging the memory.
http://hubblesite.org/gallery/album/entire/
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

The following galaxy pics are from the first link.

Old Timer's Tunnel Description= Training Work?
 

I bet it was an interesting show for you!

You may have been doing some sort of energy training w/ your spiritual team about what portals to use or not. Sort of like learning to drive in the proper lane of an interstate highway!
The instructions you had telepathically could have been from your guide.

Hey Rainbowcrow, first I want to apologize. After re-reading what I said about your experience I see my words came out all wrong. I should not have said “almost OBE”; you obvious experienced a projection but can only remember a portion. This happens to me quite frequently. Especially lately; I can only remember bits and pieces of these experiences, but just about everyone I am out of my body and with a guide; almost like a teacher of some kind; and here lately it feel like someone is there every night waiting to show me something more. It almost feels as if I am cramming for an exam. Some things I can remember, some I can’t, no matter how hard I want to. They are showing me so many things and it’s driving me crazy that my memory has been so fragmented. And by the time I become conscious of what is occurring I’m already back in my room, just lying there talking to myself.

I know what you mean about being afraid. The first time I popped out of my body, I had just woken up from a lucid dream and sat up in my bed. I felt a little funny; I turned over to look at my wife and notices my physical body was still lying there next to her. Now when you see that you are without a doubt fully conscious and out of your physical body; when that reality hits you it becomes a bit jarring, to say the least; I don’t care how ready you think you are. Although, like you said, this is something you have wanted to achieve for some time now. Then it shouldn’t be too much of a shock for you; so your adjustment period may be instantaneous. Me, I wasn’t quite ready. I had read about them at this point, and was fascinated by the subject but deep down inside I just wasn’t sure it was possible. It was; it changed the way I looked at myself, and at the universe as a hole. At that point I knew I was a soul who had just stepped outside his body on a conscious level, and it was more real than I had ever imagined.

Yeah, I was kinda hoping someone would enlightening my on my tunnel experience, that if they thought it was possibly triggered by the mirror. I had read years later that looking into an optical depth during a meditative state could bring subconscious into the physical. But it was a practiced art that took years to learn. Maybe when you as sick as I was all rules are kind of tossed out the door. I don’t know if anyone else experiences this but every time I have the flu or even a severe cold, I have what feels like déjà-vu on and off the entire time I am ill.

Trust me, if you feel this compelled to experience an AP, then it will happen. When you want something bad enough it’s gets willed into existence.

Thank you for replying, take care…
Greg

Hey Mattie, if I didn’t know any better I would swear you’ve been on my computer. The first galaxy photo you posted was actually on my desktop background for the longest time. Hmmm… :) You’re good! Astronomy has always been a passion of mine, every since I was a child. I draw great inspiration in contemplating everything that is out there, it never ends and changes every time I blink my eyes.

Greg

NDE Can Occur Without A Life Threatening Illness
 

Reviewing several NDE articles showed this is also reported when it wasn't a life threatening experience.

Hmmm, interesting; on a subconscious level I believe it was an awaking that later became productive in my conscious life. Years later when I began remembering what had happened I began asking myself all kinds of question. The more I searched for answers the more facets of my being began to pour out. I was slowly becoming self aware; something I had never experienced before. I had my first lucid dream at the age 15, between that and the tunnel I experienced combine as my key moments in this lifetime.

Greg

Cool, I have had a similar experience(tunnel, sense of no return if i jumped into it) to what you had minus the fear. I took it to creation theories of the universe.

Care to elaborate?? :smile:

Sure but not in this thread.