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Serrao 20-08-2015 11:16 AM

Realisations
 
Awakeness, Enlightenment, Liberation, God-Realisation and Buddha-nature.
Are those realisations different names for the same thing?
Or do those realisations differ from each other?

CrystalSong 20-08-2015 11:31 AM

In my opinion they are all very similar.
We could split hairs over a few things, but the very act of it just separates instead of uniting, which is the opposite of those words stand for.

Gem 20-08-2015 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Serrao
Awakeness, Enlightenment, Liberation, God-Realisation and Buddha-nature.
Are those realisations different names for the same thing?
Or do those realisations differ from each other?


Probably some spiritual stories to distract people from the rather less remarkable experience that is occurring currently.

Jyotir 20-08-2015 12:06 PM

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Probably some spiritual stories to distract people from the rather less remarkable experience that is occurring currently.


...declared Gem as example #13,916 in a series of such distractions.



celest 20-08-2015 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Serrao
Awakeness, Enlightenment, Liberation, God-Realisation and Buddha-nature.
Are those realisations different names for the same thing?
Or do those realisations differ from each other?



When the Buddha became enlightened he realized that all beings without exception have the nature and potential to become enlightened, this is known as " Buddha Nature "

lemex 20-08-2015 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by celest
When the Buddha became enlightened he realized that all beings without exception have the nature and potential to become enlightened, this is known as " Buddha Nature "


What about Awaken, Enlightened, Liberation, God-Realization. Are these realizations different. I am not Buddhist.

Lucyan28 20-08-2015 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by lemex
What about Awaken, Enlightened, Liberation, God-Realization. Are these realizations different. I am not Buddhist.


They're almost the same, they're nothing but steps of the path. They may have an order but then again, it is relative to each person for obvious reasons.

Here is the little stuff that I know about them, I may be wrong anyway, I'm not a Buddhist either.

Awaken -> a consciousness that is aware of the transcendental path (spiritual stuff)

Enlightened -> a consciousness that has reached some % of truth (realizations), some persons referred to the Truth as something absolute and sublime. For me there truth is something in perpetual change and expansion, a beautiful living force.

Liberation -> a consciousness that has been set free from Samsara (which is the illusion of the material world, I guess this is a side effect of finding the truth -enlightenment)

God-Realization -> this is a tricky one, there is something sacred inside of each one of us, a shiny and beautiful sparkle. This sparkle we could compare it with a drop of water, all of us are part of a great cosmic ocean, this ocean is "God". So being aware of the divinity within us, is some sort of realization after all.

celest 20-08-2015 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by lemex
What about Awaken, Enlightened, Liberation, God-Realization. Are these realizations different. I am not Buddhist.


Awaken/enlightenment are the same.
Liberation is when you realize there is no ' i ', it leads to enlightenment.
God realization is feeling oneness with your own personal divine.It is not part of Buddist teachings.

BlueSky 20-08-2015 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gem
Probably some spiritual stories to distract people from the rather less remarkable experience that is occurring currently.

I can't even begin to tell you all of the remarkable experiences I have had in my life, in particular while walking a spiritually motivated path.
Have you not had your own?

lemex 20-08-2015 05:04 PM

Here's why I ask. And I will study the answers given. This is what I've heard and also read about Buddhism.


I don't know what Buddhist believe today about such things as God, but I have read Buddha believed in many gods. I've read today some Buddhist believe in a God and some do not. Was so amazed hearing that. If it's true then God-Realization in Buddha nature to.

What I have always liked about Buddhism is it's concern for the human condition, human nature. The openness of compassion which I'd like more of. I use myself as an example. When I ask a question one can be too general. The Buddha nature is a word different from another. So for instance, dose what a person believe go against Buddhism as it dose say in monotheism. Do I have to give up anything. This is the kind of answer I want to hear said.

My own philosophy is My God can accept yours but your's cannot accept mine which is why I am open to it concepts. I really don't want anymore of that.

Personally, I would like Christianity to be more inclusive which I think Buddhism is. There's a lot of what I call period thinking and wonder if Buddhism has some to. Christianity is a very open religion we talk about and Buddhism seems to be even more.

As we do not know the word it is just a word.


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