about this earthly experience
 

i was thinking about this earlier, you know where many spend hours researching about different beliefs and exploring anything paranormal and then you have the active mediums and psychics that do daily readings and all that.
my question is are we spending too much time focusing on the other side? its said we are a spiritual being having an earthly experience, so it's like we should try balance it out abit, like the best of both worlds if you like.
notice how mediums will feel drained if try to do too much readings or answering questions, it's like you need time out.

Maybe it seems that we're focusing a lot on the other side because to many of us it has been gone for a long time, with suppressed abilities and such. It's like we know something is there that is an integral part of ourselves, and I see no problem with inspecting and learning from the experiences on the other side, which are probably calling for this side of us as well.

To make the most of this Earthly experience we need to know what to do while we are here (it isn't necessary to understand and know why).

How else could we learn what we need to do, as individuals, and as humans, if not by integrating our whole being, pretty much the same way one becomes lucid in a dream? For that we can't rely on what others preach; the only way is to turn toward inside, and access a higher source of knowledge.

You're right that trying to explore the non-physical, for the sake of it, is counterproductive, because it distracts us from what we're supposed to do here. This is why some schools of thought even advise that astral projecting impedes one's spiritual progress. It isn't that astral projecting in itself is dangerous, or distracting, it is that it shouldn't be seen, and used, as a purpose in itself, because that would cause a distraction from more fruitful activities.

Unfortunately, the overwhelming number of people waste their Earthly opportunity pretty much as they waste their dreaming experiences every time the go to sleep.

Focusing on the world we live in is for the young soul. To explore, experience, conquer, possess, love and exploit.

But as the soul begins to mature it begins looking inward for more than the carnal it previously valued.

It's all a process.

Yeah, a lot of it involves balance. After all if you don't then you'll probably slip out into another dimension and become crazy once you try to shove it into a brain that's not ready.

But it's really funny, spirituality. We want to be grounded to this physical world and have no idea what it's like on the other side and so we think of it as a progression of young to old and us having the goal of Nirvana.

I say just chill. If you want to see the larger picture than yes, fasting and fixing up habits will help loosen up your energy flows a lot. That'll in turn free up the energy for you to put towards working on your mind.

What makes it the "other side?" The "other side" of what? If you look at all of those things they have no 'sides' as such, they are aspects of ourselves the same as going grocery shopping is, because if you didn't your Spirituality would come to a pretty horrible end.

I'm a medium and yes, sometimes it does take quite a bit our of me if it's a very heavy session, but I feel just as pooped after a few hours in the garden with a spade or polishing the car. I don't see 'medium me' and 'car-washing me' as existence in two separate worlds - they're all co-existent and any one will come into focus depending on the moment. Right now I'm focussing on the Spiritual stuff in my head, later on I'll be building a website but it's all 'me' and the same world I exist in.

My take: Seems to me unless you live in an ashram or in a secluded religious community *more on that* - the world here
is hitting us in the face all the time with bills, and house repairs and
car issues, family responsibilities....
so balance is 'forced ' on us. This world is "in our face"!

Lemme tellya, having lived just short of 6 years in a monastic order...your
brothers and sisters will drive you batty....so you have 'the world' there, ALSO! :icon_eek: :tongue:

Even if I sat 6 hours in meditation...there is still dinner and people and a roommate and then, group spiritual 'rituals',
then breakfast...so the 'world of balance' is even there!
Oh, the trials and tribulations of dealing with personalities no matter where you are...
this is where growth occurs..Oy, lol.:wink:


linen53....loved it....'the young soul'...yes, all a process...stages...:smile:
Very wise. xo

I believe that most of the challenges we face in this life aren't necessary. They just arise from our ignorance of what we're here for.

Actually I don't see this as a waste of opportunity, opportunity is not lost because opportunity renews itself which we can avail ourselves through experience. The experience is the process. Is there only one opportunity or is opportunity a pattern? Obviously karma and reincarnation say many opportunity present themselves again. Opportunity present themselves whether one is ready or not ready. Forgot to mention, everyone gets the same (cosmic) opportunity. The young and old soul only represent the number of times one returns and still be a young soul in terms of experiencing the soul must pass through. I've noticed young soul set the foundation the soul goes through and the soul acquires. Take for example a person who seeks power and wealth and that is the desire and that desire is held on to. It is not given up in the current lifetime (incarnation). That would be attachment. Attachment as far as I have seen aren't given up in a single lifetime as it must be experienced. The experience is much like a dream to be sure.

Hello,

I'm here upon this Earth, might as well make the best of it or what I am able to do. This is how I am looking at being here at present.

If time is spent trying or wishing to be elsewhere, we'll still have to deal with being here. Learn from the past, prepare for the future, live in the present.

Get there soon enough. If one creates ones realities, then would suppose with in this lies the opporties. Whether one takes hold of opportunities seem to be influenced somewhat by how one thinks and acts at present, IMO. As far as being here goes.

Every time when tragedy strikes like the Sunday Easter bombings, I question myself about the karma of the poor victims......how to clear karma in a less painful manner.... time for karma clearing experts to come up with advanced techniques. (more than a million tragedies during WW2)

Wait there seriously were Eas-.. ugh, not surprised.

This universe is participatory and so I'm glad that people are waking up.

Karma isn't about how you die, but about how you perceive your life.

A video about Native American aspects of living with the earth.
48:00 min. long.

https://vimeo.com/85475084

Thanks, I will check this out..

I think we've lost something simple with the dawn of more advanced civilizations. We come up with so many speculation why the world is about suffering and we damn this ''earthly experience'' but perhaps we should replace earthly experience with ''society experience''..

The Earth provides us with what we need. We are blessed that way..
The problem with ''the world'' isn't our planet and nature. It's what WE, as humans beings, have created..

I understand anyone who bashes human society as we know it, but ''the world'' ain't the problem..

I hear you. And agree.
Loved your Hoh river video.Been there and around there many times.

Hi ImthatIm,

Thanks for the link.

Watched some segments and will watch it full.

What I listen to, was very true. Many have forgotten and many still remember.

To find the balance again seems the challenge in a way.

To listen and feel the Earth, each other, and life here.
To be grateful for the gifts given.
It is not out there, what is sought is right here.

Just some thoughts this brings to me.

Video is quite inspiring.

I just wanted to throw in a different perspective.:smile:

A good reminder as well for me.

Not Native American, but don't think one has to be to be in touch with the Earth and Spirit. Just wiggle the feet in the grass, sit with a tree, look at another and there it is.

The Elders have wisdom that perhaps as a society we also forget and do not honor.

When the stories get lost, so do the people in a way.

i was just wondering, let's say you opened your 3rd eye from practice at meditation, does this instantly change everything, you with all this inner creativity, higher conciseness.
i guess it's a gradual process but i feel like the body would react to it like completing the puzzle sort of reaction, ive seen people say any worries, anxiety, illnesses would just vanish as if opening up spiritually is the real cure.
i still wonder why the church gets a bit funny here with the dabbling, it's this feeling i get like they dont want you to know something, for year's i kind of believed it and how it was safety to not get involved but i get tinglingly sensation just thinking about this lol it's like im excited to be trying to escape the fear based tactics that have had that mental block hold on me for years yeah.

I like how you kept it simple.
It can be a simple moment of that connected-ness that changes our being-ness.

Hi Explorer007,

Great question!

What I have learned through my own experiences and meditations is that this plane of reality is about limitations within the premise of free will. Free will is boundless; our bodies/minds have limits.

We each chose to test those limits with the operant notion that our free will reigns. Let me explain:

Basic example: Gravity is a limitation within this plane. Our bodies are forced to comply, thus we as humans cannot fly like a bird. However, our minds have imagination. We can create now virtual realities that allow us to feel the sensation/perspective of flying. Our minds, with the assistance of our bodies (computer programming on a keyboard) have achieved what was previously denied as an experience.

Many people have phobias. Most sages agree that in order to reach our full potential, we must overcome physical, emotional, and mental phobias. The lesson of the phobia: to overcome the limitations of the mind and body (phobias which may have origins in this life or past lives). Affirmations/Law of Attraction is just a tool to help us begin to understand our power/powerlessness in this plane of reality. Energy expended for anything (such as mediumship) is energy in reserve, yet we must learn how to restore and balance that energy.

Knowing that our souls survive by exploring spiritual concepts (mediumship, psychic phenomena, meditation, astral travel, etc.) is meant to help us overcome the limitations of the mind and body. To understand that Death does not mean death of the soul is considered an Awakening because when you take Death off the table as the end of oneself, this means that there is more to this Banquet of Life than just living day to day. Hence, the Sojourner begins the real journey about asking/learning ‘Why are we here?’

Free will is important to begin this journey because it is our choice to decide if and when we will step on that path. Hope this helps!:biggrin: