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NIRVANA 29-10-2012 02:44 PM

Old testament god
 
Is God really as evil as the old testament makes out? Im sure god does not really like genocide,infantcide,etc:cool:

psychoslice 29-10-2012 09:39 PM

If there is such thing as a god, he or she may not be evil, but those who wrote the old scriptures were proberly evil, hence an evil god.

Yamah 29-10-2012 11:48 PM

If you perceive God as evil then perhaps you do not understand good and evil well enough.

Xan 30-10-2012 12:25 AM

The "God" of the Old Testament was a powerful spirit being claiming to be who he was not. He's the one who had all those qualities --- jealousy, vindictiveness, wiping out people who crossed him, etc...

The New Testament begins with Jesus bringing the New Covenant, bringing back to people's awareness the true God which is Love Itself. I'm not a Christian but many of us are still working on that project.


Xan

psychoslice 30-10-2012 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yamah
If you perceive God as evil then perhaps you do not understand good and evil well enough.

Do you understand good and evil, for myself there is no such thing as good and evil, its just our perception of what we like and don't like as humans.

Xan 30-10-2012 01:21 AM

I guess you're right, Robert. I definitely don't like child sex slavery, torture of innocents and random shootings.


Xan

NIRVANA 30-10-2012 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yamah
If you perceive God as evil then perhaps you do not understand good and evil well enough.




The problem is I understand good and evil too well that is why I know genocide and infantcide are evil .:cool:

NIRVANA 30-10-2012 11:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yamah
If you perceive God as evil then perhaps you do not understand good and evil well enough.




The problem is I understand good and evil too well that is why I know genocide and infantcide are evil .:cool:


Does this really sound like the true loving God?


Kill Nonbelievers
They entered into a covenant to seek the Lord, the God of their fathers, with all their heart and soul; and everyone who would not seek the Lord, the God of Israel, was to be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman. (2 Chronicles 15:12-13 NAB)

Kill False Prophets
If a man still prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall say to him, "You shall not live, because you have spoken a lie in the name of the Lord." When he prophesies, his parents, father and mother, shall thrust him through. (Zechariah 13:3 NAB)

Kill the Entire Town if One Person Worships Another God
Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

Kill Women Who Are Not Virgins On Their Wedding Night
But if this charge is true (that she wasn't a virgin on her wedding night), and evidence of the girls virginity is not found, they shall bring the girl to the entrance of her fathers house and there her townsman shall stone her to death, because she committed a crime against Israel by her unchasteness in her father's house. Thus shall you purge the evil from your midst. (Deuteronomy 22:20-21 NAB)

psychoslice 30-10-2012 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xan
I guess you're right, Robert. I definitely don't like child sex slavery, torture of innocents and random shootings.


Xan

Yes I agree that its not nice, but in truth there is no good and evil, this is a hard thing to understand while we are coming from the mind, and I agree that as a species we need rules to live by, for how else could we all survive together, but again that still doesn't mean there is good and evil.

knightofalbion 30-10-2012 10:48 PM

'God created man in His image'

...And men distorted God in their image


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