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jturk 22-03-2012 10:55 PM

if buddhists believe this world is an illusion what do they believe about the real
 
world or what exactly is the real world to them?

CSEe 27-03-2012 03:55 AM

In my current opinion , "Buddhist" is never existed in Buddhism as buddhism is a PROCESS of understanding ownself by being awake by own realization . One should free himself from all his knowledge , accepted himself of SAME and EQUAL with all beings ( living or non-living ) to know and understand own purity . Therefore one SHOULD NEVER distingust / differenciate himslf from others by grouping as "Buddhist"......

There is "no real world" in Buddhism .is only a REALIZATION of ownself , in own beings .

Thks
CSEe

Xan 27-03-2012 04:00 AM

if buddhists believe this world is an illusion what do they believe about the real world or what exactly is the real world to them?

In Buddhism the 'real' is not made of beliefs like this illusory ever-changing world is subject to.

The Real to discover and know in one's own direct experience is unchanging pure aware beingness.

Meditation is the way.


Xan

declan 30-03-2012 11:51 PM

Buddhists don,t believe the world is an illusion, quite the opposite.The illusion referred to is the mental constructs which we make in our minds.The explanations and stories we tell ourselves are the illusions.

Arcturus 30-03-2012 11:57 PM

i thought the idea is that the physical world is illusory, i.e. not what it appears, meaning it's not as solid as we think etc, but yes certainly not an "illusion" in any way, very real...

Xan 31-03-2012 12:28 AM

Yes...That's one aspect of the illusion. Even seemingly solid matter is really energies - molecules, atoms, electrons, photons, etc. and open space between them.


Xan

Samana 31-03-2012 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by declan
Buddhists don,t believe the world is an illusion, quite the opposite.The illusion referred to is the mental constructs which we make in our minds.The explanations and stories we tell ourselves are the illusions.



Yes, and we continue to create our own suffering because of our ignorance of its causes.


The online study guide at Buddhanet is helpful for anyone wishing to learn more about Buddhism.

http://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/guide.htm


with kind wishes to all,

S.

oliness 02-04-2012 12:09 AM

There are two levels of truth, conventional and ultimate. Conventional truth has validity due to conventions (what perceiving minds agree to label as true). That applies to all the objects in this world. Ultimate truth, emptiness or sunyata is the pure nature of consciousness itself. This is indescribable but is the reality behind conventional truths.

psychoslice 02-04-2012 12:19 AM

Speaking from my own inn Buddha Consciousness, I think there is no belief in the so called real, there is just what IS, and in what IS all beliefs are left behind, because in pure Essence there is no thought, no concepts, just pure Silence.

Arcturus 02-04-2012 07:21 PM

i see now, there is the illusory nature of the physical realm and the illusory nature of mental awareness. whereas truth can be perceived directly in other dimensions, here it has become possible that truth may not be perceived at all.


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