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cahill 13-05-2016 04:22 AM

Crossing over
 
I am needing advice from others on something I am not familiar with. I have the spirit of a young man around me that needs help. He was a suicide victum.

He wants to cross over. I haven't a clue as to how this is done. So I would like to hear the process from those that have done this before

Jeremy Bong 13-05-2016 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by cahill
I am needing advice from others on something I am not familiar with. I have the spirit of a young man around me that needs help. He was a suicide victum.

He wants to cross over. I haven't a clue as to how this is done. So I would like to hear the process from those that have done this before


Hey,

What you mean by the suicide guy to cross over? Is he intended to reincarnate or to be happy again not be linked to the suicide incident?

cahill 13-05-2016 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeremy Bong
Hey,

What you mean by the suicide guy to cross over? Is he intended to reincarnate or to be happy again not be linked to the suicide incident?


For his soul to advance and move on yes. He is thoroughly convinced I can help him. Spirits tend to be more aware of our capabilities that we are. So I'm going to atleast try.

Arcturus 13-05-2016 03:59 PM

Can he invoke guides or helpers in the spirit realm? Iassume everyone has them. I'd guess it'll be taken care of somehow as they'll know where he is better than him. The act of suicide could be said to be one of withdrawal from others and I wonder if in death that continues for a period at least? But then he's communicating with you. I hope you can help him too, atb

cahill 13-05-2016 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Arcturus
Can he invoke guides or helpers in the spirit realm? Iassume everyone has them. I'd guess it'll be taken care of somehow as they'll know where he is better than him. The act of suicide could be said to be one of withdrawal from others and I wonder if in death that continues for a period at least? But then he's communicating with you. I hope you can help him too, atb


From what i understand, for him and those like him, they have to move past the feelings of guilt, shame and anger in order for their soul to advance. They have to accept responsibility, and askills for and accept forgiveness. He couldn't forgive himself. Scared to face his family. My vibrations are a little too high for him to get through to me easily. He doesn't know how. I can see him enough to know he is there. I can feel his touch and know it's him. But when he tries to get something through its blocked. He is very frustrated but now that he sees I'm looking into this he seems to have calmed down alot and was able to hear him for a few seconds but he was in a rush and so it all got jumbled.

vespa68 13-05-2016 08:06 PM

He has to face himself (his deepest fears, etc..). Guides will not help him until he has helped himself. He has to find his inner truth that is all.

vespa68 13-05-2016 08:08 PM

He cannot forgive himself unless he faces himself completely and understand things. We are the same when we leave our body and we dont go automatically anywhere until we have faced oursleves. The light just means truth, he will see truth.

Moon_Glow 13-05-2016 08:36 PM

Good luck cahill - I don't have any advice as I have never gone that deep but keep yourself safe.

Let us know how it works out - I wish him safe and peaceful passage.

GypsyRose 14-05-2016 12:05 AM

By my understanding, and based on what I've experienced to apparently have worked as events seemed to seize immediately after, is to create a so-called "Aqua Portal." You first create your own "secure hub" or "shield." Then, you ask your guides, ascension team, council, etc. to create this portal with you. You state your intention to help this young man exit through the crystal light. What's keeping him from doing this himself is that he is fragmented. You can ask source and your team to please help return all aspects and soul fragments to this man. To remove all negative aspects, attachments, miasma, thought patterns, curses, etc that may be attached to him and send those where they came from. To return him to his original and pure state. Then say your blessings and make sure your intention comes from love, unity, the law of one. The last part is really important because you don't want to send him into false light.

vespa68 14-05-2016 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by GypsyRose
By my understanding, and based on what I've experienced to apparently have worked as events seemed to seize immediately after, is to create a so-called "Aqua Portal." You first create your own "secure hub" or "shield." Then, you ask your guides, ascension team, council, etc. to create this portal with you. You state your intention to help this young man exit through the crystal light. What's keeping him from doing this himself is that he is fragmented. You can ask source and your team to please help return all aspects and soul fragments to this man. To remove all negative aspects, attachments, miasma, thought patterns, curses, etc that may be attached to him and send those where they came from. To return him to his original and pure state. Then say your blessings and make sure your intention comes from love, unity, the law of one. The last part is really important because you don't want to send him into false light.


No one can help this young man until he faces himself and his life and goes within. Guides will not help him until he helps himself. No one will just hold a magic wand and get rid of all negative aspects, etc.. that is not how it works in 3d or beyond. Most mediums do not understand this crucial part. No one just sees any truth/ light automatically. It has to be worked on just like here. There is no soul fragmens, only the ego which still stays and must be confronted. There is no difference with here on our side except he no longer has his physical body, no one can see him so he does no know who he is anymore. He needs to find his true self. This is what truly going to the light means.


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