100 % proof
 

Hello everyone!

My name is Paul (39, from Cardiff, wales) and I've just recently joined this group and I hope to be able to converse with many of you about all things spiritual in the near future.

I would just like to ask if anyone on here has had conclusive proof of life after death, etc. I don't mean just that odd, spine-tingling feeling, or a half-heard whisper, but actual crystal-clear, not-a-shadow-of-a-doubt proof.

I ask as I, myself, used to experience many strange things as a teen and young man, but in the end I really could not handle the power of it and begged for 'them' to leave me alone. In the end that's exactly what happened. But, since that day to this, I have a deep, dark void within me, and I am always searching. I guess I have become very cynical over the years, although I know what I experienced when I was younger happened; I suppose I just find it so hard to accept now, and I would like to be able to feel the joy of spiritual faith again, but I don't know if I still can...

Anyway, apologies for my rambling. So does anyone have anything they feel is real proof? I would be grateful for any answers on personal experiences.

Warmth and peace to all of you.

:smile: Hi Paul.

As a medium i have given proof of spirit many times.i have even bought ppl through before they were buried.


Namaste

Hi. But can I ask do you see spirits? If so, are they as we are, or more shadow-like? Thanks

im new to all this but very interested in your questions and responses! xx

I'm not a medium, but for me the best proof is when a person receives information they had no prior knowledge of from someone who passed. I have read stories of this happening and have even experienced it myself.

Here is a link to a newsletter you might find interesting.
http://newsletter.guidedafterlifecon...om/issue11.htm

It's all about people who are having guided afterlife connections with those who have passed. The section titled: "Evidence the Self-guided Afterlife Connections Are Real Connections" is especially fascinating because it gives examples of people receiving validations from deceased loved ones. These aren't just visions, dreams or tingly feelings, but real information that is later verified to be true.

thank you pinkroses xx

Warm Greetings to you! Paul,

You just reminded me of my realist former hubby.
:D He used to say, I challenge any witch or spirit present to prove her/himself, strike me with your powers.
:tongue: Of course, he wasn't doing it infront of a real witch or with someone who'd wanna take him on/curse him.
My OBE experience is enough proof for me, but it is not something I can put out in photographic record at the moment.

To paulie74
 

I have seen a ghost..and it looked just as real as any other living person who would have been in the room with me (actually at the time I thought it was a living person, until it was confirmed within a minute or two that there was no living person there!)

I have my own personal proof of spirits from the afterlife.
They have given me various views of things to come, things that would happen in the future. It always came through.
Whenever they told me something I was always very cynical about the odds of it to happen. Nevertheless, they were always right.

By being in contact with spirits like that I was convinced that people live on after they die. It was always a clear contact in my mind that was talking to me.

In one occasion they told me something of what would happen about ten years later. They got me really angry with it. As if I was going to wait ten years for something like that to happen. Well, they were right again. Today I think that it was something of a karmic related thing from a previous incarnation that had to be worked out in this life.

Anyway, the experiences are all personal. They are not all so very intimate and up close so it would be possible to talk about it. But since they are private I prefer to keep the details to myself.

:smile: Hi paul


Yes i see spirit i was born seeing them.i dont see shadows i see the person in solid form. thats why when i was younger i couldnt understand why no one else could see them.

Namaste

Yes Paul, I have had 100% proof. This happened last year. Prior to that I'd had many events which showed me there was life after death, but the evidence, for me, wasn't 'hard' enough.

Then last summer I went out of body, in full conscious awareness, just into my room, and actually touched the warm, happy, living body of my deceased dog.
I could only stay with her for a couple of minutes. But it was the one most remarkable thing of my whole life. And it was totally unexpected.
On another occasion I saw her when out of body, and she returns to visit me often. When she does that it is a strong and clear sudden contact on an empathetic level, and with the essence of her character. So to me there is not one shadow of doubt any more about the continuation of life into another dimension after "death".

Greetings paulie74 - Canada here. ;-)

I like to refer to the webpage about Eileen Garrett, see below, and I'd suggest reading her books.

http://www.fst.org/garrett.htm

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Psychic experiences were a part of Eileen Garrett's life from the moment she saw an infant for the first time. She sensed and saw around people, animals and, even plants, various forms of light and energy which she initially termed "surrounds". She said that she had imaginary playmates, whom she called "the children". She claims that their appearance was a very normal part of her life and that she "did not have to go to them in any particular place, or make any adjustments" in order to see them.

One day, while quite young, she saw her favorite aunt, who lived about twenty miles away, walking up the path carrying a baby. As the aunt approached, she said to young Eileen, "I am going away now and I must take the baby with me." Eileen quickly ran into the house to relate this to her adoptive aunt, who immediately punished her for making up stories. The following day she learned that her aunt Leone had died in childbirth, along with the baby.

This unfortunate introduction to death had its impact upon young Eileen. She had many questions concerning birth and death, none of which anyone, least of all her aunt, cared to discuss with her. As a means of protest, and in response to some undeserved punishment, she drowned some ducklings of which her aunt was very proud. She recalls, "The little dead bodies were quiet, but a strange movement was occurring all about them. A gray, smoke-like substance rose up from each small form. This nebulous, fluid stuff wove and curled as it rose in winding spiral curves, and I saw it take new shape as it moved out and away from the quiet forms." Thus she became aware, at a young age, that there was more to life than the physical form, and that this "more" separated itself from the body, at the time of death.

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Hi Paul, I have seen and conversed with many spirits but I think you will find this one encounter quite fascinating. When I was a young child, alone in my room I saw my grandfather sitting at the edge of my bed. He had died some years previously and my father was missing him a great deal. My grandfather spoke to me briefly and then recited a poem about the war which at my tender years I did not fully understand. The following morning I told my father about this visit and recited the first 2 lines of the poem. My father then completed the poem word for word as I had heard it the night berfore. It turns out that my grandfather used to say this poem to my father when he was a child to comfort him. I was a very young girl and had never heard this poem before and I can't remember the words now! I believe this was my grandfather bringing comfort once again to my grieving father.

Paulie,
I came across this video the other day and thought you might be interested. This man discusses the various signs he received after his son passed away. Some of them are quite remarkable. Enjoy!

http://www.afterlifetv.com/2012/08/0...theyre-around/

Hi, and thanks for the welcome.

I suppose I am quite a realist myself now, but I never used to be; I used to be so open-minded about all things spiritual. I just feel that over the years I have lost my way somewhat, but I need some kind of real and substantial proof to kick-start my belief again.

Hi Dreebsy! Welcome to another newbie like myself!:smile:

Thank you for the link - I shall read it with interest. :smile:

Thanks for your input, Sesheta.

I think that half of me really wants to see a spirit, but the other half can not handle the fear (all of this terrifies me!).

Thanks for sharing that, mogenblue. I have had previous experiences, but, as you rightly say, they are personal things. I would just like clear proof.

Cheers for the reply.

I have never seen anything in my life, although I used to see different people in mirrors - in fact any shiny surface (they were very clear), but I never knew why I was seeing them.

thank you for sharing such a touching experience.

We had to have our beloved dog (Jack) put down the year before last and, hand on heart, it absolutely floored us on very level. I have always loved animals, but even I was shocked at the pain we both experienced when we lost him. The odd thing was that on the night he died we were both in the bedroom sharing a joint and just trying to calm down a bit when outside of the bedroom door we both heard quite clearly paws on the wooden floorboards (when we used to smoke in the bedroom when he was alive we would put him in the spare room and shut our door as we didn't like the smoke near him, but he used to pace outside the door exactly as he did the night he died). This one experience made me want to reacquaint myself with all things spiritual once more, but I still find it so hard to accept that there is life after death.

[quote=goldie08]Greetings paulie74 - Canada here. ;-)

I like to refer to the webpage about Eileen Garrett, see below, and I'd suggest reading her books.


Thanks for that Goldie. I shall definately have a perusal when I get five. :smile:

That's quite beautiful - thanks for sharing it.

[quote=Pinkroses]Paulie,
I came across this video the other day and thought you might be interested. This man discusses the various signs he received after his son passed away. Some of them are quite remarkable. Enjoy!


Thanks for this, pinkroses. Will have a look when I get the chance.

I have always been interested in other experiences and have started looking on the net for stuff like this (unfortunately though, there are as many crazy ones out there as there are genuine! lol) :smile:

For me, the proof came three days after my best friend died, when he paid me a visit. I'd been a skeptic, but the experience was so unexpected and so overwhelming I couldn't go back to not-believing in our existence beyond death.

But I don't expect anyone to take my word for it. Other, still-skeptical folks have come up with all kinds of logical reasons why they think I didn't really have the experience I absolutely know I had. And I can't say I blame them--I used to be one of them, after all.

So for people who are looking for "harder" proof that doesn't come from reports of NDEs or after-death encounters, or who don't believe psychics are the most reliable sources, I recommend a few books: Michael Newton's Journey of Souls and the follow-up book Destiny of Souls, and Brian Weiss's Many Lives, Many Masters (he has other books, but they get really repetitive).

Both Newton (clinical psychologist) and Weiss (psychiatrist) inadvertently helped their patients tap in to past-life and between-life memories during hypnotherapy. Neither set out to do so; when they asked their patients simply to go to the root cause of their present-day emotional problems, that's where they went. Both have regressed thousands of patients (including many who did not believe in an afterlife, or who had religious beliefs that didn't match their experience when under hypnosis), and their books are definitely worth checking out.

Paulie, I'm sorry about how you both must have suffered when you lost your Jack.
They live on. And they can visit us. And during my contacts with my dog I have heard her shake, and yawn, and felt her get in and out of the bed on a couple of occasions! But mostly it's an "affection-contact". So be aware that Jack may well visit you from time to time, and if you suddenly sense him strongly -a wave of his "presence" -then that is him, and be happy.

My goodness! NOTHING could get through to me before my dog did! Nothing provided sufficient evidence for me.

When we pass from this life the proof will be self-evident.... :^)

I honestly don't see it as a bad thing at all that we generally are unsure of what goes on "over there" while residing in this physical body. It seems that this is the theme... that we forget... it appears that this forgetting is intentional since "not knowing" is quit common and normal... so why fight it?

If we're here to live the physical then our attention would need to be riveted on such..

I personally have plenty of proof that we continue, and that those that we've known are still existing outside our view... but telling you this won't bring about the conviction that you're looking for... they would just be more disembodied stories for you to add to your thoughts... If your soul intended you to know then within moments you would... our souls can inject what it wishes at will... this afterlife knowing seems to occur on a "need to know" basis.... the fact that you're curious at this serious a level may suggest that an "experience" is heading your way (I often feel thematic ripples shortly before such an event actually unfolds)... for that's the only way you'll know for certain... you'll need to see it for yourself.... and once you know, you'll then "know".. there's little ambiguity when the truth is standing there with you... :^)

This is very interesting. Thank you for sharing, goldie08.

As stated, "There is more to life than the physical form" and it is a delight to receive confirmation that this is true.

A delight, yes, a necessity, no.... :^)

You know, I totally agree with this.
It doesn't matter how many peoples' experiences you read about or are moved by, they will all be anecdotal. And there's no harm in that!
While it's great to discuss, and share other peoples' experiences, it is your own experience which counts in the end. And I too, do believe these glimpses are given on a "need-to-know" basis. And not because someone who has had experiences is more "advanced" than the next person who does not know for sure.
One day you will know. When the right time comes and for the right reason, whenever that will be....or maybe only the actual knowledge will come at the moment of your own passing? If that's the case, it is definitely meant to be. We are here to live our lives. It's my view that is extremely important, whatever glimpses we might get of the other worlds.

One of the coolest books that I read some time ago was from a woman who went though a long series of past life regressions. Her first life was in Egypt, she was part of a mystical sect that was very highly spiritually advanced. They moved things with energy, they manipulated matter... that was her first life... from then it progressively got simpler... in another life she found herself as a male viking. He was deeply masculine, raiding villages, killed several people, he loved the sheer human intensity of that life, and though she had no problem with the brutality of that lifetime, she sought to soften things a bit after that one... her lives became increasingly simpler... she picked the simpler lives on purpose in order to better understand what it was to be simply human immersed in a purely human environment... these were all done for the sake of simplicity and a down-to-earth humanism experience ...

When a soul chooses a life it's not with the intent to escape it... that happens by default at the end of each cycle... A soul becomes immersed within the experience... it's this immersion that the soul has in mind...

One of the best books that I read on Lucid Dreaming was written by a most intuitive and insightful man. The book was incredible! I had already experience a seemingly endless string of Lucid Dreaming and knew much of the process of entering and exiting, had practice with what facilitated my remaining in that state, and knew with some clarity what would "pop" me out of it (don't ever get overly exited within a lucid dream...will bump you every time... :^). This author had collected the lucid dreaming traditions from all over the world, described them in detail. I could often see my own experience within these tales... But there was a caveat to this book and this author... He had never had a lucid dream himself... he was deeply lamentive of this fact... he had studied the process for years, and couldn't manage to initiate a lucid dream within himself.... I was startled... this suggested something quite poignant.... he personally wanted to do something but his soul wouldn't allow it.... it seems that events such as this, should they occur, tend to do so on a need-to-know basis....

So this idea that we can study and conquer our limitations by purposefully expecting ourselves to do so.... or that somehow we're missing-out on something if we don't astral project, or help souls to the other side, see the future with clarity, or at least do "something" that's spiritually-correct.. is just silly... We are what we are, we're here doing what we're drawn to do... raise our children with love and deep empathy and you just did something amazingly spiritual.... that may just be what you arrived here for... to know love and share love among those you encouraged love as a shared theme... then leave this life the wiser for having done so... that's spiritual... :^)

Hi Paul, I guess having proof is personal to all of us. When my mother was close to death in a Cancer Hospital I made the trip home to be with her, she would talk to my grandmother who died 20 years earlier and asked could I see her, and if what she was telling her was true? Everything she was being told about me and my son who was'nt born when my grandmother died, was true, things my mother did'nt know. A few months later, my mothers younger brother who was'nt sick, started saying he could see and talk to my mom, he died himself not long after. My grandmother told me through my mother that my son was one time her son. I did'nt give much thought to reincarnation before that. My son has since died, it comforts me to know he lives on.:angel8: :angel8:

Hi Stephen,

I agree, it is not a necessity to know about "the great beyond". Why do you think we forget? Is it to pay attention to what we have have in our present lives and deal with that?

To me, to be able to view what is beyond the horizon is comforting to help me know there is a purpose to this present life. All the pain, suffering, etc.

Life beyond
 

Hi, I received a reading from a medium a few weeks ago. He informed me that a member of the family had died on the Lusitania. On arriving back home I began researching and found that indeed a distant relative had drowned when the ship was sunk (May 7th 1915) by the German U-boat, U20. One month previously I had had a vision of a large ship with four funnels being towed away from the harbour. Lots of people were standing on the pier waving hankerchiefs and in front of me an open-topped car with four persons sitting in it looking toward the ship. At the time I could not understand nor relate to the scene. Curiously, on many earlier readings the name 'George' was mentioned as being close but could not connect the name to anyone I had known. It was George's way to be remembered.
To me, this is proof of life continuing on in a different world after death.

That is so very interesting. This also pretty much excludes any possibility of telepathy with you or anything like that during the reading.

I might be late to the game here- but reading Proof of Heaven was very helpful for me! I was someone who feared death extremely until I read it- and now I feel so much more peaceful about my death.

My grandmother passed a little over a week ago, about three hours after her passing I meditated and asked my Spirit to follow here energy trail to make sure she got off alright and wasn't malingering in the hospital confused about where to go.

The experience was amazing, I followed her through about 20 layers each one more washed out in golden light that the last one, after about 12 layers I couldn't see details or even outlines anymore....at one point she zoomed out into space for a little bit and streaked through the stars, then she went into a layer so saturated in bright golden light I couldn't follow anymore...but the sense was strong she had passed through it on her way to somewhere, though it was too high vibration for me to follow anymore.

So for me that will stand as good enough of proof of life after death, tho I've a few other convincing experiences as well. In the end we all have to form our own thoughts on it, come to peace with it or fear it or explore it as some of us have done, until such time as our bodies quit and we get to find out definitively.

I easily understand the relief in being granted such knowing! :^) It seems to me that this is such a closely held secret in order that we intently "feel" limitation, that we intently feel vulnerably, that we intently feel a form of helplessness in such a way that is not commonalty available on "the other side". Were we to fully know the "punch line" to all this then the experience itself would be less poignant, less compelling...

For an eternal soul, such as we are, to experience limits must indeed be a rare, and a deeply sobering experience... this may intimately be the benefit of being as we currently are... bound to time, bound to restraint, bound to limitation, bound to a format that condenses experience into a tight ordered package, a theme for each life, a beginning and end point.... were we to know too much of the overview to all this then the benefits would likely be compromised and the experience itself would lack the depth that it currently contains....

That's incredible CrystalSong! When a friend of mine passed some years ago I was only able to follow him skyward for a very short period and was blocked at the point of a bluish-white energetic roar... I suspect that this was among the first layers that you mentioned... The one thing that was certain was that this passing is not a bad thing... this awakening that we go through upon passing is warmly welcomed when the transition itself is openly embraced ... we are much more than we currently realize ourselves to be... :^)