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BlakeGood88 24-02-2017 12:24 AM

Can you restart from an earlier time if you die and haven't done your goal?
 
I was watching Edge of Tomorrow last night where Tom Cruise's character repeatedly dies, only to restart on the previous day and I was wondering if someone died and didn't complete their purpose in life, could they restart from an earlier time where they merge with one of their infinite other selves in a parallel universe while the old universe they left behind, their dead bodies are buried. So if I died at age 32, could I go back to being age 12, back in the year 2000, if my goal in life wasn't completed? This makes me wonder if death is only an illusion because of the body's limitations.

Also, will our memories be intact if it is possible? Like I will have memories of the future and wanting to reincarnate as my non-existent twin sister or will I lose all of my memories, leading back to that moment in that particular point in time? Meaning everything that happened after the year 2000, from 2001-2020 is no longer remembered and overwritten by new memories. Like I'm not aware that 9/11 will happen on September 11, 2001.

Maybe you're given a choice to either start over with a new life or return to before when you died, which could be from 5 seconds until your initial death to all the way back to the day you were born. I think that would be pretty interesting and would make a great idea for a TV show or film. It also kinda reminds me of films like Groundhog Day, The Butterfly Effect, and Donnie Darko and even the TV show Quantum Leap.

wernerW 26-02-2017 01:51 AM

While it would be quite interesting we still have to see if there is a multi-verse. If theory is true for each human being (and it could go further) there are infinite possibilities for not having fulfilled one's deeds. So there must be about 6 000 000 000 x infinite makes a lot of universes.

Carnate 05-03-2017 12:11 PM

I'm not really a fan of this infinite/parallel universes theory.. this universe is large enough. Particularly when you factor in the different dimensions and planes of existence. Yeah.. here's me saying one theory is silly yet holding true to another concept that is equally silly (to most people).

Having proven myself a hypocrite, here we go: :rolleyes:

I'd suggest that the events you experienced after your 'save point' still had meaning. Even your death would have meaning and is often the most important lesson in life. To go back and repeat some/any of those lessons would be superfluous.

There would be more benefit in starting a new life with more opportunities to learn the lessons you missed along with the new ones you have yet to tackle.

If there was some larger objective that needed to be completed at 'eg' 2002, you would simple start your new life a few decades prior to that. Which is another way of saying that you can have a future life that technically exists in the past.

Dargor 05-03-2017 12:15 PM

This would be my favorite kind of ''afterlife''. Being able to go back in time and complete a life goal that is very dear to you if you failed miserably in your first life. But of course that sounds TOO good to be true...

Rozie 06-03-2017 11:06 PM

I am pretty sure that the timeline can be altered. It seems to be so.

There are no mistakes. If it was the master plan to go back and finish your mission after your death, then that might happen. It seems unlikely that would be the plan, because you might as well do it right the first time. It isn't inconsistent with the principals that I have come to understand, but it wouldn't be practical.

I think we are doing our mission, even if it seems boring and meaningless, it isn't.

baro-san 06-03-2017 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BlakeGood88
... their infinite other selves in a parallel universe ...

I don't think so. In my opinion, such speculations have only entertainment value, even when promoted by "scientists". Better, as much as you can, try to learn about the truth through your own experiences in altered states of consciousness.

shoni7510 07-03-2017 09:40 AM

If you die without fulfiling your plan, which is more likely than not, you will have an opportunity in the afterlife to review all your life and later you will plan another life when you are ready to reincarnate in which you will learn the unfinished businesss and add new lessons.

BlakeGood88 07-03-2017 11:55 PM

So if I, like die in 2018, I can restart from like 1998 or 2003 and continue from there?

I sure as hell ain't going forward in time, whenever I die. This world is getting worse!

Tedmil 08-03-2017 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by SlayerOfLight
This would be my favorite kind of ''afterlife''. Being able to go back in time and complete a life goal that is very dear to you if you failed miserably in your first life. But of course that sounds TOO good to be true...

Why not? Maybe we are tested with life failures.

shoni7510 08-03-2017 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by BlakeGood88
So if I, like die in 2018, I can restart from like 1998 or 2003 and continue from there?

I sure as hell ain't going forward in time, whenever I die. This world is getting worse!


Do you have a phobia of the future? Chances are you won't repeat the whole period but only lessons that were not completed and this may happen maybe 100 or 200 years give or take from the time you die.

Dargor 08-03-2017 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tedmil
Why not? Maybe we are tested with life failures.


If by WE you mean a few unfortunate souls forced to live against their will as martyrs then yes. That being said, I didn't sign up to be part of someone's fun project so I'm pretty much done with those stupid tests.

Burntfruit 08-03-2017 05:36 PM

I understand that once you are dead, that lifetime is a closed book. Thats it. You can't go back.

mihael_11 08-03-2017 06:59 PM

Well that is not the case. You are tested alright, it is not the failure all the time, we perceive it that way because community expect certain level of achievement and we can't always manage, we have our path and there is in one moment what is it possible for us to do.

I also had theory about this, reliving the same life, i writed about it in thread.

Well, there are no hard proof about this, it is possible as much as other scenarios. Depends, what you believe.

I questioned that, because there were many deja-vus that happened and i also dreamed live scenario of what will happen and i know, when it did, what it will be, so there is something. But that is again, if you believe me, that cannot be proven.

Tedmil 09-03-2017 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by SlayerOfLight
If by WE you mean a few unfortunate souls forced to live against their will as martyrs then yes.

Sure that would fit but it's very specific. When I say life failure I mean any event where outside forces are the major contributing factor for failure. This failure will haunt those directly affected with a sense that their purpose in life will be unfulfilled.

Colorado 10-03-2017 05:27 PM

Not from my experience, no. I think it's a neat concept, but from my own experiences, that's not what I saw. I'm not saying it's impossible, I don't really know. In a sense, you do get to go back through reincarnation, and the lessons we failed, tend to rise up at about the same ages we were in those past lives.

A lot of what I saw in my own NDE, and from dreams...things that happened in my past, that were traumatic for me, happened in another life at about the same time. I did see where we reincarnate with those same people at about the same time, and how we were drawn back together to repeat the same experience. I also saw where in at least one occasion, where I was being drawn towards one person, but it didn't work out, and so I had to go through that same experience with someone else who took their place, until that negative energy dissipated, and lessons were learned.

Tedmil 10-03-2017 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Colorado
I also saw where in at least one occasion, where I was being drawn towards one person, but it didn't work out, and so I had to go through that same experience with someone else who took their place, until that negative energy dissipated, and lessons were learned.

Unless you dealt with the same person again under the same circumstances and then succeeded, there is no way to tell if it was due to any lessons learned. Maybe it worked because the latter person had an easier dynamic to deal with.

BlakeGood88 13-03-2017 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by shoni7510
Do you have a phobia of the future? Chances are you won't repeat the whole period but only lessons that were not completed and this may happen maybe 100 or 200 years give or take from the time you die.


Yes I do! This world is just getting so bad. Mankind is really doing stupid and horrible things and I don't understand why! I fear the future. I mean there was once a time I was okay with reincarnating into the future, but once you see movies like Interstellar, watch old home movies of you and your family from the 80s, 90s, and 2000s, and study the multiverse theory; you change your mind about reincarnating into the future. From 2008-2014, I wanted to reincarnate into the future, but last year or so, after watching home movies, I decided I want a do-over, but not as myself. You see, I never had a twin sister and wondered what would it be like, if I came back as her and redid this life all over again, instead of going to some scary dystopian future where Earth is dying or lord knows whatever happens!

The whole futuristic dystopian next life, really scares me! I remember there was a short lived TV show called "Terra Nova" where future Earth was dying and humanity had to go back in time, during the prehistoric era and live among the dinosaurs. It was basically Jurassic Park meets Avatar. There's no looking at the future, as being a positive one. It won't be! Too much to worry about; robot uprising, cyberhackers, and Earth on it's last wheel..., I mean axis! Plus, I bet the fashion will be awful, too! I mean, computer chips inside your clothes, NO THANKS!!

Rozie 19-03-2017 03:58 AM

Nobody knows and anything is possible. I feel like there have been times that had a do-over but the now is the now as it is so there is no awareness of any rewrites in this present.

I don't like getting older, but the thought of having to relive my life at any time is not something I would want to do. Once was enough. There were good times and bad times but not a lot of easy times.

Imagine being stuck in a loop of reliving your life over and over until you get it right. That would be my version of hell, and maybe it is.

I don't personally subscribe to the reincarnation scheme. It might be a path for some but not necessarily everyone.

Colorado 21-03-2017 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Tedmil
Unless you dealt with the same person again under the same circumstances and then succeeded, there is no way to tell if it was due to any lessons learned. Maybe it worked because the latter person had an easier dynamic to deal with.


Actually there is...that's why I wrote the post. But thanks for piping in without knowing what happened. These are spiritual experiences...not scientific hypothesis.

Tedmil 21-03-2017 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Colorado
Actually there is...that's why I wrote the post. But thanks for piping in without knowing what happened.

I can only know what happened by what you posted and I already quoted the extent of that. Either explain why you disagree with my reasoning or expand more about the details of that specific experience.

Armadodecadron 21-03-2017 06:32 PM

Give it a shot and let us know how it worked out for you!


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