Philosophical considerations. What a meditation about the name of some higher being. Angel, a demon, a pagan god or goddess. And ask him/her what he / she thinking about it. But take it a time. So, patience is needed. :hug3:

Like for example Hindu bhakti-yogis. See Ramakrishna and his vision mother Kali.
Or like adepts ancient mysteries. See Iamblichus: Theurgia, or the Egyptian Mysteries..... etc.

NDE vs clinically dead
 

Was gonna post this as a new thread, but might as well post here.

The brain remains active after the heart stops beating, from minutes, to maybe hours until the final neuron fires. During this time is what most would call NDE, which is why everyone see what they believe the afterlife is like: Heaven, hell, tunnel of light, deceased relatives, clouds in the sky, maybe even 50 virgins awaiting them. It all happens in your mind which is why some say it felt like a dream. Sleeping/dreaming is the closest we get to NDE without actually dying.

But that doesnt explain the astral projection people experience.

And then theres clinically dead, when the brain completly stops, or when they give up on reviving you and announce time of death. Your spirit cuts its cord to your body. We have no idea what actually happens because nobody can report on it.

But of course there are hints: ghosts, energies, etc.

I believe heaven/hell IS Earth. We simply awaken to something similar. Karma? Reincarnate? Wanderer? One of those. I would love to be a wanderer: observe people, play with their minds, manipulate their lives, create miracles, visit their dreams, explore the oceanbeds, be a guardian angel, etc.

Weird ive never thought about that, it really is what id love to do

E.T.: Phone. Home. [pointing at the window] E.T. home phone.
Gertie: E.T. phone home.
Elliott: E.T. phone home. E.T. phone home!
Gertie: He wants to call somebody...
Michael: [entering the room] What's all this ****?
E.T.: [famous line] E.T. phone home.
Michael: My God, he's talking now.
E.T.: Home.
Elliott: E.T. phone home?
E.T.: E.T. phone home. [pointing at the window again]
Elliott: And they'll come?
E.T.: Come? Home. Home.

Keys: Elliott, I've been to the forest... Elliott, that machine. What does it do?
Elliott: The communicator? Is it still working?
Keys: It's doing something. What?
Elliott: I really shouldn't tell. He came to me. He came to me.
Keys: Elliott, he came to me too. I've been wishing for this since I was 10 years old. I don't want him to die. What can we do that we're not already doing?
Elliott: He needs to go home. He's calling his people and I don't know where they are. He needs to go home.
Keys: Elliott, I don't think that he was left here intentionally. But his being here is a miracle, Elliott. It's a miracle. And you did the best that anybody could do. I'm glad he met you first.


home :rolleyes:

I intend to stay for awhile after I die and be a bit of a wonderlust. I want to be in my present mind with all the thoughts, emotions, feelings I have now not come back later. I'd like to visit my family members, see how they are doing, visit some places I've always wanted to visit, but I won't mess with people trying to get through their incarnations. They have enough to deal with without having to deal with a mischievous spirit.:D

Where do we go??? To the Caribbean of course!!!!!

But where???

Port Au Prince, Haiti ....................HELL!!!!!

St Bart's, French Antilles...............Heaven!!!!

We go home pal.

Yes we go home Burntfruit. Whatever that is to each of us.

I don't have any fixed belief about where I will go after leaving this body because I think it's futile to create such a belief with the conscious human mind. After reading many NDEs my impression is that we exit through our subconscious mind - hence the many different scenarios people report when they come back. The subconscious mind is by definition not part of our conscious thoughts, so we don't know what we will experience when passing through it. Our subconscious mind is like a bridge to the beyond, into the afterlife. We have to cross that bridge.

There are many sources telling what happens once we have crossed over proper, left our whole personality and subconscious mind behind. (Spirit Guide Sparrow, Seth, afterlife101, Silver Birch, etc) There are mediums who have reported on the afterlife, people who have channeled spirits, reports from deep hypnosis, etc. They are all similar and mostly I feel they are authentic. It's worth reading them! It seems that it will be really really wonderful! Yes, home is the right word for it.

I believe that after our bodies die our spirit moves to the astral plane. Beyond that an explanation is beyond me. Theres no way to know the possibilities beyond life besides asking spirits what their existence is like.

Welcome to the forum, tsukitaiyo.