Originally Posted by rstrats I need to add: "and who thinks that a calendar day begins at sunset".

Jews believed a new day began after sunset.

Other people have different ways of telling time then we do.

for example, we divide a day (normally - not militarily) into 2 sections. I had a girl friend once in which it was their custom to divide a day into quarters. One of her favorite expressions for when we would be leaving is "2 o'clock" which could mean 2:00 AM, 8:00 AM, 2:00 PM or 8:00 PM.

Same problem exist with calendars. I lived in one country in which the calendar was 543 years ahead of our calendar.

Originally Posted by rstrats Whenever the three days and three nights of Matthew 12:40 is brought up in a “discussion” with 6th day crucifixion folks, they frequently argue that it is a Jewish idiom for counting any part of a day as a whole day. I wonder if anyone has documentation that shows that the phrase “x” days and “x”nights was ever used in the first century or before when it didn’t include at least parts of the “x” days and at least parts of the “x” nights?

1 Kings 12:5 reads:
"And he said unto them, Depart yet for three days, then come again to me. And the people departed."

They returned on the third day, not after 3 days as recorded in
1 Kings 12:12 were it reads"
"So Jeroboam and all the people came to Rehoboam the third day, as the king had appointed, saying, Come to me again the third day."

Jeroboam returned on the third day, not after 3 days.

I hope this will help you.

Originally Posted by rstrats BigJohn, re: "Are you rendering 3 days and 3 nights to mean at least 6 days?" No. What the heck have I written that would cause you to ask such a question? And you still have a question directed to you in post #103.