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Night Sky 26-10-2017 05:24 AM

Hell doesn't exist ... It is a word derived by the basis of fear .

Dargor 26-10-2017 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Night Sky
Hell doesn't exist ... It is a word derived by the basis of fear .


I'm afraid there are far too many NDEs involving hell and hellish realms to ignore it's existence, just saying. Believing only in heaven is like believing there are only good people.

Colorado 27-10-2017 05:06 PM

As long as there is negative and positive energies...there will always be heavenly, hellish, and every level in between. These levels will be created by our beliefs, feelings and thoughts.

EndoftheRoad 01-11-2017 05:33 PM

Beliefs go a long way, but I do get the feeling that heaven and hell exist in the same context depending how one views their settings. One interpretation that I found fitting was Hell could be a timeout for the spirit/soul to learn. In this learning you're presented with whatever vice that needs work, and you must work this out to regain alignment. Kinda like the father that catches his son smoking and makes him smoke a whole pack in a sitting. Its up the individual to learn, and grow.

CrystalSong 01-11-2017 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SlayerOfLight
I'm afraid there are far too many NDEs involving hell and hellish realms to ignore it's existence, just saying. Believing only in heaven is like believing there are only good people.


In NDE's just as OBE's we see the experience we are vibrationally in alignment with. So people's reports of either heaven or hell realms only actually tell us what they could experience at the time - not what is possible for them were they in a higher state of frequency alignment or what our own experience will be. All of which heavily tends to indicate we make heaven or hell through our own expectations.

WabiSabi 01-11-2017 07:05 PM

I believe that our universe is comprised of an infinite number of experiences, and any experience that can be imagined indeed exists. Take every experience possible within the infinite universe, and put them on a sliding scale from the worst of the worst to the best of the best, and everything in between. I believe that 'Hell' refers to lesser experiences. Anything from being tormented by a yappy chihuahua for a lifetime to eternally burning in a lake of fire, unable to die. I believe that the suffering that is referred to can be either physical or mental, so it can be a state of mind but it doesn't have to be.

Internal Queries 03-11-2017 05:03 PM

Hel is the Norse Goddess of the underworld, the name of which is also "Hel" or "Helheim".


as for as hell being a place of eternal torment. pfffft! that just spiritual terrorism designed to keep the masses too fearful to step outside the prescribed religious dogma so to keep the clergy coffers filled w/ tithes and "love donations". a carrot/stick method of keeping the poor overloaded donkey plodding along. heaven = carrot. hell = stick.

if you never heard of such a place, never had the concept presented to you as a possibility, if it wasn't so prevalent in religion and in the media, you, in your innate Love and innocence, wouldn't even begin to consider that such a place could exist.

WabiSabi 05-11-2017 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Internal Queries
Hel is the Norse Goddess of the underworld, the name of which is also "Hel" or "Helheim".


as for as hell being a place of eternal torment. pfffft! that just spiritual terrorism designed to keep the masses too fearful to step outside the prescribed religious dogma so to keep the clergy coffers filled w/ tithes and "love donations". a carrot/stick method of keeping the poor overloaded donkey plodding along. heaven = carrot. hell = stick.

if you never heard of such a place, never had the concept presented to you as a possibility, if it wasn't so prevalent in religion and in the media, you, in your innate Love and innocence, wouldn't even begin to consider that such a place could exist.


Not to play devil's advocate, but I think such a notion is quite one-sided. You say that in our innocence we would never be able to conceive of Hell, and yet from experience we know that very negative experiences can occur right here on Earth. Mass shootings, wars, famine, genocide, etc. I believe it is quite logical to assume that if such negativity can exist here, even if we as an individual are filled with love and bliss, then even worse experiences can exist elsewhere.

Internal Queries 05-11-2017 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WabiSabi
Not to play devil's advocate, but I think such a notion is quite one-sided. You say that in our innocence we would never be able to conceive of Hell, and yet from experience we know that very negative experiences can occur right here on Earth. Mass shootings, wars, famine, genocide, etc. I believe it is quite logical to assume that if such negativity can exist here, even if we as an individual are filled with love and bliss, then even worse experiences can exist elsewhere.



as you wish :wink:

WabiSabi 05-11-2017 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Internal Queries
as you wish :wink:


And with that response you have given me much to think about.


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