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Colorado 22-10-2017 01:48 AM

What God told me
 
After going through a particularly hard time the last couple of months, I decided to have a talk with God. Now, I have had a few NDEs in my life...and I have learned how to hear messages, from loved ones, alive and dead, as well as hearing messages from higher sources (and unfortunantly, lower ones, too)

The best way to describe it for me, is learning to ask when I’m feeling good, and balanced, learning what and when I’m on a certain energetic frequency, spiritually.

And so, I was asking God..

Why do we have to incarnate here, why are we here....to experience pain? To just have an experience? Because if we came here to experience another existence away from God, and it was meant to be fruitful, or if it was meant to be painful...why?

So many people here are not doing well, they are depressed, mentally ill, hurt, sad, live in poverty, etc.

Why? And why reincarnate people to live and suffer over and over, how does that help? You wouldn’t beat an already abused child, that would t help them.

Why?

This is the answer I got, and I can only explain it from my human words and emotions.

So here it goes.

I heard, not audibly, but through feelings and thoughts (the way I did in my NDE)

That we are here, not because we have sinned, or because of all the things we did wrong, or hate, prejudice, etc. . Those are only symptoms of the real cause. Like blood bleeding from an open wound. You have to treat the wound, before you can stop the bleeding.

I heard...because we do not know our self worth.

We do not love ourselves, or see ourselves as God sees us.

Because of our own self hatred, self harm, low self worth...our energy does not vibrate at the high level of light and energy that God does.

I always knew that part, like attract like...energy will attract the energy it belongs with.

Energy travels on vibrational wavelengths, we cannot sustain at a level we do not resonate on.

It isn’t what we done, we have done those things....because we do not love ourselves, the way God loves us.

Our hatred, and anger, pain....towards the world, is the outer reflection of what is going on inside us. How we feel about ourselves.

That self abuse is why we are here, and no matter what we do for others....we can not be at the level energetically, that God or other light beings are, if we do not love ourselves spiritually. We can not give, what we don’t have.

We can not sustain higher levels of energy, if we are like a cancer to ourselves.

If we abuse ourselves, we look for love from others, we don’t care about ourselves, we don’t see that we are divine sparks off the source....then we cannot swim in the same sea of energy....

That is why we are here, the number one reason is.....to learn self love.

Through self love...we can love others.

Until we love ourselves, we can not truly love others.

We all learn differently, so each of us, will learn differently....some through self, some through others. Apparently, this is the hardest and most important lesson in life...and the darkest for us self haters. All of us are self haters on some level, or else we would not be here.

Colorado 22-10-2017 02:00 AM

I also want to point out...that I have never seen God, not even in my NDEs. So when I refer to God, it’s a higher source. God, light, higher source.....where ever it came from.

It’s not like I wake up every morning, jump out of bed and stretch....while yelling, I’m God, I’m apart of God! I am magnificent, great, unstoppable, perfect, beautiful, and wonderful!!! Just the way I am.

No, I don’t know anybody who does that, and if they do....it’s probably a facade of narcissism, or a rebellious will to overcome others negativity.

But apparently, on a more humble note....we should believe that about ourselves, and others.

LibraIndigo 22-10-2017 02:21 AM

That's nice. Its hard to learn self love though when dealing with outside sources of negativity. I would say that takes a lot of inner strength.

Colorado 22-10-2017 02:29 AM

I know...That shows us, how many of us are self haters, whether we are inflicting that pain on others, or taking it from others...letting it affect us, when we shouldn’t...or doing both, which is more likely.

None of us truly know our self worth...but it looks like there is a bright light on the horizon. Each if us have been given a chance, or many chances to learn this. And now, as we look at the world....with all the self haters we share it with (everyone) that we are loved and being given the learning we need... to learn self love.

When you know your self worth, in the eyes of God....the negativity can not touch you spiritually, emotionally, mentally, etc....because you are strong from the inside out.

I am a student, not a teacher. I need to love myself more, too.

We think too much, feel too deeply, and listen to others much more than we should....we should be listening to ourselves, and asking for guidance from a higher source while we learn, and are being attacked from all sides. The majority of the time, it is our thoughts and feelings about ourselves, that shape our experiences....and sharing this world with other students...they are going to pick up on weaknesses, and exploit it...because we do need to work on those areas where we can be abused by others. Kids are so mean sometimes.

FrankieJG 22-10-2017 03:09 AM

This is a lovely post. Thank you for sharing Colarado. I have been developing self love over the past 2 years and I am still learning. When I was a teenager I always underestimated me , my life and my capabilities. Even now, when things go wrong I do it. Because sometimes it is really challenging, specially when we interact with the outside world.
I have a question though, how can we love our selves without being selfish? I always get confused between self love and selfishness. Would you kindly explain this to me?

Colorado 22-10-2017 03:16 AM

I think unselfish love, makes you feel good, it makes others feel good...there’s no expectation back...but the love and good feelings from others. Feeling good about yourself is not selfish, feeling bad about yourself and trying to fix it with material things, or bringing others down, or pretending you are strong, when you are not...is selfish.

I honestly, probably, have never felt self love...I love my children, and I feel no strings, or wanting something in return from them, when I love them. They are my children, they really can’t give me anything in return, but a smile, and their love back. I don’t worry about them talking **** about me, because I am able to freely feel love for them...somehow. Even when they talk ****, I still love them, and even laugh about it...because I did the same thing to my parents.

But, those two are the only ones in the world that can not break me, because I truly love them...I would have to love myself a lot more, and draw strength from that....to feel the same way about others.

That must be the same kind of love I should show myself.

I read one time, we can act nice, and try to love others....but good intentions are often punished(no good deed goes unpunished) if the feelings are not there. Example: I can be nice to you, out of manners....and want to be your friend out of loneliness, but to truly call you a friend, you would look passed my manners, and feel the energy I am sending you. I can not be a friend to you and make you feel trust, etc....if you do not feel that energy from me, even with good words and deeds. The simple fact, that I am not a friend to myself, and do not have the energy to share with you, would be a good example. When I am a good friend, because I feel good about myself, and love myself...then I can be a good friend....That is with love, self love.

People don’t remember the good deeds and nice words you have told them(but they always remember the bad) if you do not have the energy to go with it, because people remember how you make them feel, and that comes from your energy, not good manners, morals, or niceties.

If you have self love, you don’t have to say a word....someone could silently sit next to you...and still feel it. That’s self love.

I think self love is an energy....and that energy can start by saying....I’m not going to feel bad about myself today. I’m going to be me, take care of myself first, love myself first....(not with material things) and so I can love others and make them feel as good as I do. Self love comes from not denying yourself things that bring you happiness, that make you feel good, and not hiding away, so that others won’t be mean to you. Self love means all these things, and shining bright like The Sun....even in the face of adversity, jealousy, and hate....just by being your own self....with self love.

So I did not draw this last paragraph from anything higher, but myself. I am learning to love myself, I am intelligent, but my intelligence isn’t going to bring me self love....my spirit has to want that. I am learning self love now, today, right now.

So these are my own words...and I would love to hear from the rest of you....how do you self love yourself?

Erika 22-10-2017 06:23 AM

That is so God the inferomation that you received.

Colorado 22-10-2017 02:17 PM

Well, I am sitting here this morning thinking about what I wrote last night...those are my words, but those were not all my thoughts and feelings. It always surprises me, when stuff like that comes from me....because I honestly do not think that way. Yet, I don’t feel special by any means...I think we all do this, I’m just aware that I know it’s not from me....because I know very little about self love or self worth. After writing that post, I sat there trying to figure out what self love is...what is my self worth? I tried to put it in words, what I thought it was...but I just doesn’t do it justice. I have no idea where to start, or what it really is...to love myself, to know my self worth. I’m sitting here thinking about it....where do I start...I really don’t even know where to begin.

7luminaries 22-10-2017 04:31 PM

I think valuing the self is important. But it is not more important than valuing others.

I think treating ourselves well is important, but not more important than treating others well.

I think that practicing kindness and basic courtesies toward oneself and others are all equally important. If you feel tired or low or whatever, and your child asks for a hug or for dinner, do you treat him or her with kindness or courtesy? If a stranger passes and says hello, do you respond with courtesy and meet their eyes with respect? And so forth. Or do you skip all this because today you are not tip-top? And treat them unkindly, or with cruelty or apathy? Perhaps with violence, for some?

I don't think that telling everyone to seek their happiness will result in authentic love of self across the board. Many currently understand "seeking their happiness" as self-indulgence and gratification of all wants and desires, very often by means of using others, even harming or killing them.

Manners, courtesy, simple kindness and acknowledgement of others...these are very important indeed and they are manifest acts of lovingkindness. If we feel we are overextending ourselves in a relationship, we may need to back off a bit. But that doesn't mean the kindness in action that we extend isn't real just because we don't "feel" it in the emotional sense. Not everyone is as emotional as others, and yet they may still find great joy and peace in day-to-day exchanges and relationships of all sorts.

If we are deceiving others, that's another thing altogether. If we are not authentically present and engaged, then that too is another thing altogether.

But humanity is a collective and we cannot attain the fullness of our humanity without community. We cannot survive infancy without touch, and our brains will fail to develop many higher brain functions if we are not raised in loving community with others. The same applies regarding our emotional and spiritual development...these ripen in relationship with others, within our circle of belonging in which we interact. Thus I cannot fully know and care for what is ultimately right and true and good for me, unless I also know and care for what is ultimately right and true and good for you and all others. And all that is.

Otherwise, if I seek and care for only my own wants and call that "my highest good", I may do great harm to self and certainly to others. And same for them, toward me. In the context of what is the highest good for you and others (according to you, and according to others), then I can seek my own highest good from a place of equanimity and authentic love for all.

Peace & blessings :hug3:
7L

Colorado 22-10-2017 05:38 PM

Thank you for the insight and response. I think all those are important things, it’s apart of give and take in relationships. Common courtesy, manners, looking passed our own feelings and day to day problems, to give others some respect and courteousness.

However, what I’m talking about goes beyond simple pleasantries. Yes, it’s importamt to do those things, not everybody does even just the smallest acts of kindness. But again, that is just a symptom. Do we really know ourselves, what makes us happy....am I really being selfish, by recognizing that the first person who has to be cared for....is the self? Yes we can exchange pleasantries, but without the energy behind it...it’s just seems mundane.

It’s better than being rude, I agree. But, is it just living, and what’s the difference between just living and being alive?

To have relationships with others, it seems normal to go through each day, exchanging humdrum pleasantries....while inside, we are suffering, wanting more in life.

I’m seeking self love....and self worth...that each interaction I have, isn’t always an exchange of pleasantries and niceties. I’m looking for true self love, that says and feels I am right with myself and with God, and the world I general....regardless of the circumstances and outcome.

I know it won’t be perfect, and I know life is up and down...Im not looking for the extremes, good, bad, right, wrong, ....I’m looking for the balance, contentment, and true self worth.

I want to be that person, that you can sit next to....silently, and feel that kind of spirituality.

I don’t mean take care of ourselves as....Got to have the best clothes, house, car.....the biggest steak, while everyone else is eating hotdogs, or being the first in line. Those are humanly ideas of taking care of yourself first, I’m talking spiritual self.

7luminaries 23-10-2017 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Colorado
Thank you for the insight and response. I think all those are important things, it’s apart of give and take in relationships. Common courtesy, manners, looking passed our own feelings and day to day problems, to give others some respect and courteousness.

However, what I’m talking about goes beyond simple pleasantries. Yes, it’s importamt to do those things, not everybody does even just the smallest acts of kindness. But again, that is just a symptom. Do we really know ourselves, what makes us happy....am I really being selfish, by recognizing that the first person who has to be cared for....is the self? Yes we can exchange pleasantries, but without the energy behind it...it’s just seems mundane.

It’s better than being rude, I agree. But, is it just living, and what’s the difference between just living and being alive?

To have relationships with others, it seems normal to go through each day, exchanging humdrum pleasantries....while inside, we are suffering, wanting more in life.

I’m seeking self love....and self worth...that each interaction I have, isn’t always an exchange of pleasantries and niceties. I’m looking for true self love, that says and feels I am right with myself and with God, and the world I general....regardless of the circumstances and outcome.

I know it won’t be perfect, and I know life is up and down...Im not looking for the extremes, good, bad, right, wrong, ....I’m looking for the balance, contentment, and true self worth.

I want to be that person, that you can sit next to....silently, and feel that kind of spirituality.

I don’t mean take care of ourselves as....Got to have the best clothes, house, car.....the biggest steak, while everyone else is eating hotdogs, or being the first in line. Those are humanly ideas of taking care of yourself first, I’m talking spiritual self.


Colorado, whilst you seek who you are, and I understand what you are saying, I am also saying that the greatest love you are and can be whilst incarnated is what we allow to naturally outpour to ourselves and to those around us. To the world around us.

Pleasantries are not mundane or trite, even if necessary. They are one of the purest expressions of agape for the stranger and for all those we touch. The outpouring of authentic love for self and others. And whilst we discover who we are, we can continue to engage with others and be and do the authentic love we are.

To be honest, presence is nice, and there are those whose presence moves us. But in nearly all cases, it moves us when they invite us in, as in giving a talk. Or most of all, for many, when they speak to us or bless us or embrace us personally. Your presence or my presence is a powerful thing, but its effect is always most powerfully experienced person-to-person. Not only sitting next to someone but particularly when speaking to them personally, smiling, helping, and generally being with them with intention.

If we are seeking to have a deeper connection with others and with the world around us, and that is what I am getting from your words, then you are right to seek to deepen your connection with yourself. But to connect with others deeply, you then will need to engage with others more personally and more transparently, more authentically. With more authentic love manifested. And so we are back to the kindnesses and the courtesies, but offered now from a deeper connection with your centre.

Peace & blessings :hug3: :hug3:
7L

Soul Renew 03-11-2017 05:36 PM

Wow, Colorado, this was beautiful. I almost cried.
Recently I've just been pulled towards sources with the same message-
'Love yourself.'

I can vaguely remember it started last year when I met someone who might have been my twin soul, but I can't say for sure.
In summary, I was telling him how I beat myself up constantly and trying to learn how to treat myself better, so he told me that when people beat themselves down it makes him sad, so he told me the importance of self-compassion and even sent me Youtube link about it.
Look up Duke University Professor Explains "Self-Compassion" on Youtube if you want to watch it.
It's less than 3 minutes long.

Then gave me he gave me a PDF book called Awakenings from the Light: 12 Life Lessons from a Near Death Experience by Nancy Rynes.
I haven't finished it because I'm going through the dark night of the soul and my energy gets easily drained, even from reading!
But the few chapters I read were worth something to think about.
Love was a very important theme; love for oneself and others.

I even came across a song that was described perfectly what I was going through regarding a one-sided crush.
The last lyrics was perfect.
"So once again, I'll walk on alone.
Just the thought for once maybe I could be with somebody else.
Maybe love yourself, before someone else, is what it really means,
To be alive."


Your talk with God really hit something in me.
When you say like energy attracts like energy, so true!
I even experimented with being truly happy for a few days and it attracted really nice people! But I am still learning how to love myself so I am sincere in my feelings and self forever...

This process that I am going through currently...
I can't even describe it; how it affects something deep inside me, in my soul...
This feeling is like having something I can't physically grasp or even see, but it's there! I can feel it. Like digging for the truth...

This morning, I woke up feeling like something was missing inside me.
I felt like groaning and wanting to hug so badly.
Wanting to feel a warm love form someone who loved me back, but I don't have that someone.
This happens to me sometimes I never really knew how to satisfy it, but it would go away from time to time.
Anyways, this morning, however, I told myself in my mind that I am pretty, loved, smart, good enough, and just complimented myself while hugging myself and I felt better!

Love is truly important. Especially for oneself.
I have been on an incredibly hard journey too much for words, but I do want to say that I mentioned a one-sided love earlier. Well, that guy told me the most important person you have to take care of is yourself first.

Yes, it's so important, I need to learn to love myself, take care of myself...
Again, the same message...

Either in 2015 or 2016, during the dark night of the soul, I had this strong feeling as if I knew I was reborn; I looked at everything around me and even my own self and cried because it was just so beautiful.
I cried at the thought of creation, of being created, that anything exists!
I cried in shame thinking that I have this body and soul, but I don't know how to live right, I don't know how to treat it right.
I also felt that this might be my last life and I wanted to be free of all the hate and anger inside me and be at peace.
I'm only 23 years old, but I feel like I need to change myself and learn how to love like Jesus had loved us.
I need to be at peace because if I died, I don't want to die with great animosity inside me.

I prayed to God to help me because I feel so much darkness inside me...
If you lived in darkness for so long, it's all you ever known...
So when light, in all it's shinging glory, comes your way, it hurts!
You're blinded and need to close your eyes and run away!
It takes time to adjust to the light...
I think that's what's happening to me. God is helping me to adjust to the light. To put away my old life in sin and live anew in Christ.

But again, the light is so harsh....I need time to adjust.

You were taught, with regard to your former way of life, to put off your old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires; to be made new in the attitude of your minds; and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness.
Ephesians 4:22-24 (NIV)

Soul Renew 03-11-2017 05:36 PM

Wow, Colorado, this was beautiful. I almost cried.
Recently I've just been pulled towards sources with the same message-
'Love yourself.'

I can vaguely remember it started last year when I met someone who might have been my twin soul, but I can't say for sure.
In summary, I was telling him how I beat myself up constantly and trying to learn how to treat myself better, so he told me that when people beat themselves down it makes him sad, so he told me the importance of self-compassion and even sent me Youtube link about it.
Look up Duke University Professor Explains "Self-Compassion" on Youtube if you want to watch it.
It's less than 3 minutes long.

Then gave me he gave me a PDF book called Awakenings from the Light: 12 Life Lessons from a Near Death Experience by Nancy Rynes.
I haven't finished it because I'm going through the dark night of the soul and my energy gets easily drained, even from reading!
But the few chapters I read were worth something to think about.
Love was a very important theme; love for oneself and others.

I even came across a song that was described perfectly what I was going through regarding a one-sided crush.
The last lyrics was perfect.
"So once again, I'll walk on alone.
Just the thought for once maybe I could be with somebody else.
Maybe love yourself, before someone else, is what it really means,
To be alive."


Your talk with God really hit something in me.
When you say like energy attracts like energy, so true!
I even experimented with being truly happy for a few days and it attracted really nice people! But I am still learning how to love myself so I am sincere in my feelings and self forever...

This process that I am going through currently...
I can't even describe it; how it affects something deep inside me, in my soul...
This feeling is like having something I can't physically grasp or even see, but it's there! I can feel it. Like digging for the truth...

This morning, I woke up feeling like something was missing inside me.
I felt like groaning and wanting to hug so badly.
Wanting to feel a warm love form someone who loved me back, but I don't have that someone.
This happens to me sometimes I never really knew how to satisfy it, but it would go away from time to time.
Anyways, this morning, however, I told myself in my mind that I am pretty, loved, smart, good enough, and just complimented myself while hugging myself and I felt better!

Love is truly important. Especially for oneself.
I have been on an incredibly hard journey too much for words, but I do want to say that I mentioned a one-sided love earlier. Well, that guy told me the most important person you have to take care of is yourself first.

Yes, it's so important, I need to learn to love myself, take care of myself...
Again, the same message...

Either in 2015 or 2016, during the dark night of the soul, I had this strong feeling as if I knew I was reborn; I looked at everything around me and even my own self and cried because it was just so beautiful.
I cried at the thought of creation, of being created, that anything exists!
I cried in shame thinking that I have this body and soul, but I don't know how to live right, I don't know how to treat it right.
I also felt that this might be my last life and I wanted to be free of all the hate and anger inside me and be at peace.
I'm only 23 years old, but I feel like I need to change myself and learn how to love like Jesus had loved us.
I need to be at peace because if I died, I don't want to die with great animosity inside me.

I prayed to God to help me because I feel so much darkness inside me...
If you lived in darkness for so long, it's all you ever known...
So when light, in all it's shinging glory, comes your way, it hurts!
You're blinded and need to close your eyes and run away!
It takes time to adjust to the light...
I think that's what's happening to me. God is helping me to adjust to the light. To put away my old life in sin and live anew in Christ.

But again, the light is so harsh....I need time to adjust.

You were taught, with regard to your former way of life, to put off your old self, which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires; to be made new in the attitude of your minds; and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness.
Ephesians 4:22-24 (NIV)

JOHN44 18-11-2017 04:33 PM

Beautiful
 
You mentioned a human understanding Why

A simple question or two if I may? Do you find that an unmeasurable age of the energy of all is now for your insight ? what was the first emotion bestowed ? can words give justice to how you feel now ? Also is your truth known in its givings or did you allow yourself to continue to give forth your truth unwavering by His Glory ?

Also were you shown what is a vast truth of an essence within the gestures of emotion What I wish for you is what is it to you to be given a choice to dwell within the continual growth upon a grand truth of a creation untold better yet were you given a choice

WHEN TIME IS GIVEN ONE MUST CONTINUE SPEAKING FORTH TO BE FORTHMORE IN DIRECT CORRESPONDENCE TO YOUR FAITH YOU HONOUR THE GRAND TRUTH TRY TO AVOID QUESTIONS IT IS TO UNDERSTAND WHY A QUESTION IS FIRST


iT IS TO GIVE MY TRAVELS MY HONOUR FOR I SHALL PARTAKE IN A GRAND QUESTION

JOHN44 18-11-2017 06:07 PM

James chapter 3 verse 2 and 11

JOHN44 18-11-2017 06:11 PM

Philemon chapter 1 verse 8

linen53 09-03-2018 03:15 PM

Self love. I like that. Learning to accept and honor myself. Personally I can't love the world around me until I learn to love myself.

I'm like a little furnace of love. It pours from within me. Also reading about the world around me and how we all interact (new souls, middle age souls, old souls, etc). That gives me understanding to my fellow travelers and with that understanding I can see where they are and love them as they play out their little dramas; they are having the human experience and loving every minute of it. And I just sit back and smile. I'm happy for them.


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