Hearing voices before falling asleep
 

Does anyone else hear music or voices just before they fall asleep? This has been with me all my life. I actually believed everyone could hear this so I never really talked to anyone about it, until now.

Although I’m not sure what to think anymore; everything I’ve read on the subject seems to change with each individual. At first I read that if you hear music or a lot of voices talking at once that they were ghost. But here lately I’ve read they may be spirits trying to communicate. Then another website suggest the voices could be inter-dimensional beings that may want to cause you harm. Others say they are demons; and others insist they are guides trying to help you. So now I am officially confused…

To be honest I’ve never once felt threatened by the voices. I can never make out what they are saying, but I do know they are speaking words that do sound English. But there are always so many talking at one time that the words always blend together. To me it sounds like 3 or 4 DJ’s at a radio station talking in rhythm and then breaks into song; then back to talking again. It never stops, of course until I fall asleep. I sleep with a fan every night just to fade them out, but most of the time it doesn’t work; they are just as loud as ever.

Okay, I’m bringing this up because the other night about 2 in the morning I get out of bed and go into the kitchen. Off in the distance I hear a woman’s voice, and the harder I listen the louder it gets. She was singing a lullaby in a soft whispering voice. My parents live with me so I was thinking that for some strange reason my mother decided to sing my father a lullaby… at 2am… So I peek into their room and both were sound asleep. I have never heard voices while walking around my own home before so to be honest it kind of freaked me out a bit. I fallowed it out to my garage and it ended as soon as I opened the door.

Does this happen to anyone else here? Also, what everyone’s take on this as to what these voices can possible be? Has anyone ever tried to communicate with the voices, and if so did you get a response and what happened?

I do apologize if this subject has recently been discussed.
Greg

I get this too and yes there is a lot of debate to what causes the voices one being a form of hallucination-I cannot remember the proper term for it. Like you I have experienced it all my life. I once mentioned it to a medium and she said that she also gets this and as far as she is concerned it is spirits speaking. She said that all of her medium friends don't get this and she was suprised to be speaking to someone who also hears these night time/early morning hour voices. Like you, she and I thought everyone experience this. I do know on this forum there are quite a few who experience this too through.

I also hear music. singing, and general talk as if there is a couple of people or a group chatting away. At first I would just get snippets before I would fall back to sleep. I hear these voices etc when I am inbetween the sleep/awake stage and I have learnt to stay in this stage for sometime now before falling asleep so I am now hearing more then snippets and sometime full sentences which are always coherent and in context. I have also heard people speak in a foriegn language and the only language I speak is English.

But who knows. I also do not find these voices threatning and find that listening to them actually helps sooth me to sleep in a odd way.

Yes the medical term for it is hypagogia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnagogia

I started getting this after meditation so I certainly believe there is a spiritual cause. If we believe that the spiritual is in everything than there's no reason to separate hallucination from spiritual phenonema.

When I was little, I used to see and hear people talking right before I went to sleep. My eyes were closed but I could see individuals and zoom in on them, and hear their conversations. They always stood on a vast road. As I got older, I lost that ability.

I've had a lullaby experience too. When my daughter was a baby and in the middle of day, a spirit lady came into my home and sung a beautiful, old fashioned lullaby for 3 hours straight. Her voice was distant yet clear and seemed to stem from somewhere in our living room. I searched the entire house for her voice and could not quite pinpoint the source. She would return on and off over the years. I can sense her. Firends told me that I have ties to her, and that she is a very evolved soul. Unfortunately, I don't know how to communicate with her.

There's a child spirit that would occassionally visit my son. Once he sang to me and because I had a really bad headache that night, and a bit frightened, I kinda ignored him. He also sang a lullaby.

On occassions, epecially between 2010-2011, I would hear lots of partying, and lound music, but muffled. It would keep me from sleep. My son has told me that it was his spirit protectors. They love to party. I have no idea why they always partied to the left of my bed. I never told them to tone it down for fear of insulting them. Now that my son no longer sees them, I don't hear them any more.

Recently, I've been hearing a lot of humming in my right ear, occassionally on my left. When I meditate,or trying to sleep, I would hear bells, or some type of humming music.

I too, do not feel threatened upon hearing the voices/singing. I believe lullabyes are loving music/energies. The spirits are sending us their love.

I've never communicated with them and I wish I knew how to.

My experience is that the best way to communicate with voices is to start an imaginary conversation with them in your mind. That will get their attention and allow you to focus on them and what they would like to speak about.

John

aaaaaahhhhh yes Hypngogia............i have been told this aswell, i dont hear the voices but i see the people, and only people and never the same person twice. they dont say a word, just look at me....some of them are rather creepy looking aswell.
I dont see shapes and gigantic spiders etc, that majority of people see.
So the question is, Hypngogia..scientific or spiritual....because as Wiki says "well-trodden and yet unmapped territory."

I experience this aswell except they aren't physically there.. I get random images of something or hear something before I fall asleep. One time I got an image of a women, and I think a golden retriever getting killed.. I don't know if this is just me before I fall asleep, but some of the images I get are really weird.

I feel like I am talking to myself in my own head sometimes before I fall asleep, but I've been told that I am actually talking to my spirit guides. I don't really know.

BlueOwl, I know what you mean about the voices being soothing at times. They seem to speak in continuous rhythm, so a lot of the times I will count the beats then doze off fairly quick after that. Although sometimes they become so loud that I have to get out of bed and walk around just to get them to stop.

Very interesting Berry, that was something I use to hear all the time as well. It did, it sounded like a lot of people together yelling, laughing singing and caring on; like a huge party. For the past few years or so it’s just been a lot of chatter.

That was actually the first time hearing a lullaby though. It was also the first time hearing only one voice and not four or five talking at once. She had a distinct tone in her voice; so soft and beautiful. I felt she really cared deeply for whoever her singing was meant for. Like a mother humming her first lullaby to her newborn.

my oppinion
 

I think they are just people who for some reason are connected to you... And you hear them when you're going to sleep because you are very calm :|
It doesn't take much... and we're all connected...
Maybe i'm wrong... but this is my oppinion.

This morning I heard a lot of communication. I was able to hear a couple of full sentences and realised at times I was engaged in the conversations with others. The realisation would snap me out and I would wake up fully. I was also hearing the names of my deceased relatives been said too. I believe personally it is spirit communication rather than hypnagogic.

I always hear people talking about their day events . I feel we tune in to the vast frequencies of thoughts like tuning in to a radio station .

Pretty sure, atm, that all the frequencies are simply falling into alignment.

It’s interesting you put it that way. I’ve always felt the voices I was hearing were being transmitted from an internal type of radio station. So in the back of my mind I always felt that whoever they were they were not talking to me, but I was just picking up their conversation via my internal receiver tuning into this particular frequency. I believe this is why I never thought about communicating with them.

Greg

I'm sorry to bring this up, but I think someone should. You first heard them before going to sleep, now you are hearing things when you're up and walking around. Some might think this is a symptom of mental illness. Now, maybe it's not, but perhaps you should get a psychiatric opinion, just to be sure. Ultimately, you have to determine how troubling this is for you and what you're going to do about it.

UPDATE:

It’s interesting you put it that way. I’ve always felt the voices I was hearing were being transmitted from an internal type of radio station. So in the back of my mind I always felt that whoever they were they were not talking to me, but I was just picking up their conversation via my internal receiver tuning into this particular frequency. I believe this is why I never thought about communicating with them.

I just read this, so I wanted to comment. Thinking that you have an internal mechanical device that allows for the voices is a very common delusion of people who are developing mental illness. Again, I'm in no position to say that's what's going on with you. But it sounds like the same kinds of thoughts and experiences that some people with certain types of mental illnesses experience. I think you should get it checked out while it's still a minor issue.

Good luck to you.

Ed

Non Proximal hearing is very common during the Theta state of brain frequency. A number of theory's surround this phenomena.

Theta is a low brain frequency in which REM dream takes place... You will note that dreams seem very real. It is as though ones awareness consciousness is far removed from the head resting on the pillow.

To get to sleep properly..The timeless black void of sleep...Delta frequency it is usual to to pass through Theta in departing Alpha Frequency(restful wakefulness... So in a sense you do traverse these frequencies from deep sleep to total awake and alert Beta.

Interestingly (To me anyway) Mediums..Meditators and Astral Projectee's occupy the Theta state during those activities that they practice.

Other examples of Non proximal hearing that have happened to me while dropping off to sleep. My name being called, Loud knocking,Music, Crashing noises.

I concluse all of this to be normal, further and more excitingly for me are the accomponying visuals (seeing behind closed eyes) that will start to occur. Now this is the part that a lot of people find difficult.

Once you focus it's gone... caput...disappeared.. Because you bring your attention Alphe, even Beta to bear upon Theta ..You are switching brain frequency and moving away from the subject matter of Theta where you are required to nothing more than passively observe...

Anyway...It's a really interesting subject and I could go on and on about this area of interest but I'd bore the pants off most of you.. So heres a small illustrative readme.

Beta Brain Waves (13-30 cycles per second). The fastest, representing the most intense state of alertness. The result of heightened mental activity. Maximum mind power. All five external senses, logical mind, memory from the five senses & logical thinking.


Alpha Brain Waves (8 to 12 cycles per second) This brain wave indicates a relaxed state of mind.. State of relaxed alertness, good for inspiration and learning facts fast. A meditative mind. In this state tap into internal “antenna” like qualities. Visions, powerful ideas, mindless creation of the incredible. Internal feeling & sensations.


Theta Brain Waves (4 to 8 cycles per second) Deep meditation. Deep inward thought. This is associated with life-like imagination. High state of mental concentration. A magical mind. Internal pictures / visualisation. Intuition, inner guidance. Access to unconscious material. Dreaming.


Delta Brain Waves (0.5 to 4 cycles per second) Deep dreamless sleep. Deep relaxation. State of oneness, whole body feeling. Pure being & will.


Note that the lowest range of delta is 0.5 hz and that No Brain activity is 0. This provides a very comforting view of what life is like after physical death may actually be like.. A very deep perpetual sleep. Which should provide some solace to those who have no faith that an afterlife exists...

Yay Me...I always wanted to be a thread killer.....not :smile:

LOL Neville..........i hate it when it happens...look on the bright side........maybe you just hit the nail on the head, and no one has anything left to say, because you summed it up!

Of course that thought has crossed my mind a number of times in the past ten to fifteen years. Honestly I don’t know a single soul that hasn’t thought this about themselves at least once or twice in their lifetime. I thank for your honesty.

Sorry bout that; I’ve been a little preoccupied lately. I usually try and reply to most; especially one who put so much into a response. Thank you for your input and fully agree with this! I’ve always been fascinated with the brain and the frequency levels we experience during a sleep cycle. To me the Thata State has always been the most fascinating. We slip in and out of this state even throughout the day just watching TV, reading a book, even driving a car; or in my case getting up at 2 in the morning and hearing a woman singing in my cornflakes.


Thank you for your insight and apologize for my delayed response, that was a bit rude of me.

Greg

Does anyone ever hear their name being called out...sometimes before you drift off to sleep? Is this the same thing, or I wonder what that means.

Yes I have on occasion heared my name called when dozing off from a non proximal voice. I assume that as Theta brain sate is the state mediums use and the state where dreams and OOBE's take place , that in this state our consciousness not only expands but travels too.

Our Brains serving as both transmitters and receivers.

Yes, I have heard my name being called numerous times throughout my life while laying in bed trying to fall asleep. However, it's terrified me every time. Every time I've heard my name it sounds so evil, it's deep, scratchy, loud, and almost demonic sounding. It paralyzes me in fear for a moment and it's so loud it makes me jump because it feels like it was right by my ear and it fills my head up with the sound because it's so loud.

I've always wondered what it is/who and why it happens to me. I never knew of anyone else to experience it,people look at me like I'm crazy when I bring it up.

See that antenna at the top?

Yes in some doctrines and beliefs at has been suggested that the crown chakra serves as a portal.

My research suggests it may be the Pineal gland that fascilitates "getting out of ones physical self" or rather a combination of the effects of the micro calcite crystals therein and naturally occuring brain chemicals and bio electrics.

Please see the following thread for further details; Post 4 ,where full details are provided of the processes I believe take place during consciousness travel and expansion.

http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/showthread.php?t=19413

Fascinating read Neville! Thanks for the link. Years ago I fell very ill. It was around 2 or 3 in the morning, I get up from my couch where I was sleeping at the time. I find my way to the restroom and as I finish I turn to look in the mirror, and instead of seeing my own reflection I witness a tunnel open right before my eyes. I won’t go into detail only because I have spoken of this before in another thread. But the thing is I have always wondered if this was a chemical, physical or a spiritual experience… The actual occurrence lasted around 10 seconds. I do remember I could see this tunnel with my eyes open and just as clear with them closed.

Greg

Hello Gregory,

I recently submitted a small response to the de calcification of the pineal gland thread. Within the Pineal Gland and in addition to my above commentary and bearing in mind that micro calcite crystals have been noted as present within the Pineal... I embarked, with quiet some help.. from Bilko (another member here) to reverse engineer the Pineal gland to try and find out whats going on. I still have not got all the i's dotted and t's crossed yet sadly.. However.. I note that many myself included feel drawn to crystals and while doing some work in researching Cathedral Quartz I managed to get into the realms once again of inter dimensional travel.

It gets really interesting about 5 mins in.. It is well worth your time to watch these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdCmipeoGyg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx-fTznfpJE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YiuS6ACYKps&feature=relmfu

Whilst I fully understand that the Cathedral Quartz used in the experiment is not the same as the Micro calcite crystals within the Pineal. It is interesting to speculate...and speculation is sadly what it is....the efeects of our very own bio neurological electrical impulses as neurons fire up etc on the calcite crystals within the pineal gland.

If the effect is the same or similar, I believe we can go quiet some way towards explaining how we can dream, how we can Astrally project,Access the collective consciousness, be in touch with creation as a whole by dint of being just a small part of it. How we can have near death and indeed death experiences.

I fully understand that I am possibly suggesting that we are in fact multi dimensional beings and further still..That the physical part of our existence is just the tip of an infinite ice berg...

I do hope that this is not all a bit too science fiction and far out for folks.

Still it woud'nt be the first time I'd made a fool of myself :smile:

First of all, it’s refreshing to hear that this is being taking seriously. When I was much younger all I wanted to do and all I could think about was bridging the gap between science and spirit. Unfortunately the paths I choose lead me away from this course. This is not foolish in any way!

These findings are unbelievable… I believe just about everyone hear is drawn to crystals for some reason or another; I imagine this is why. I had a dream about a year ago that I also posted about the energy centers within the body. The dream was very detailed and quite beautiful. I was shown all the major chakras within the body and when the center was activated it opened what looked like a wormhole/portal just above the head, and once it activated the body was in perfect harmony. This dream reminded of the portal above the crystal. I’m not suggesting they are the same, it’s just an observation.

I’m not a scientist but it does seem your theories may coincide with their findings and that you may defiantly be on to something. I’m going to watch these videos a few more times just to make sure I understood them correctly. Thanks for the links Neville.

Greg

They stretch credulity to the extremes in my view.. My initial response was. I have never seen such fake nonesense in all my life..

Imagine a Crystal providing a link to any time and and any space...

Then I looked at silicates like quartz a little more closely wondering about how "virtual" (though some see them as alternative) realities are accessed every day using a very high grade quartz, viz a viz Liquid Crystal Displays or LCDs as we call them.. Silicon chips and micro processors all using Quartz to take ones awareness away from the physical body.

When i thought of the properties of crystal in this way. I found i could not be 100% dismissive of the eperiments shown in the videos above.

Anyway .. where was I ?

Micro calcite Crystals in the Pineal. Possible

Melatonin with a dribble of our very own DMT equivalent secretions. Also Possible

Brain frequency alteration to extend our receptivity(picking up other stations)....Opening to Channel. Possible too.

I cannot say which one exclusively is responsible for our dreams, Out of Body Experiences, Non Proximal Hearing, Channeling.

Like as not, I suspect a combination of all them in varying degrees is responsible

You're right, I did, I misread what you said; I do apologize.

Greg

No , I don't think you misread me at all:smile: The fact is a possibility exists to use crystals for communication...They used to call the old Radios a crystal Set. We know already that silicon has major and significant uses in multimedia , including the device you are using right now.

The Light library Quartz Cathedral has often in metaphysical terms thought to provide accessto the Akashic Record, The striations on a lemurian Seed Crystal are equally thought by some to contain information regarding the Lemurian civilization.

So the significance of crystals and their use in alleged interdimensional communication is not entirely dismissed by me. I initially thought as i said that his series of experiments were baloney..

The thing about Tall stories, Epic fantasy novels and various other flights of fantastique is that at their core. There seems always to be a basis that we can on some level resonate with. this inturn suggests that the feelings and emotions being expressed despite their setting are both genuine and authentic,

I only have to sit and gaze into the whisps, fractures and rainbows of a clear quartz and my breathing deepens, my blood pressure lowers and relaxation takes place .. In short i descend into Low Alpha high Theta state.(changinging Frequency/Channel) Its not too far to go to be off and away lost in your own thoughts.

This is quiet pertinet without the Quartz because within our day , there are I grant you during times of concentration when you have to be right here right here right now. However for the most part we are any where but. Thinking things like , I have to do this , Have i done that. So the Brain is either planning ahead or appraising the past. In effect traveling backwards and forwards in what we call time and space.. Its fair to say the consciousness is best with wanderlust. from day dreaming, planning tonights meal reminiscing about that holiday, planning the next one it never ends.. With this in mind. Would it not be fair to assume that as consciousness is pretty much all over the place.. the same would apply to sub consciousness. Dreams alone seem to suggest that this consciousness/subconsciousness cannot be contained within the body.

Leaving aside the Pineal gland if you look at your blood and water inside you under a microscope you will see its crystalline in parts.


I associate changing frequency with changing channel because that is what you do with a radio transmitter reciever..alter its frequency and you alter the channel.

I think your doing really well to even to attempt to grasp what i am trying to express, so dont worry too much if you misread some of the stuff I'm trying to share.. It does get more complex sadly but i think i have to the best of my ability imparted the bones of the subject matter, as I have found it to be so far.:smile:

It’s true Neville, I honestly don’t know enough on this subject to keep up with you. Although I have learned quite a bit within the last couple days; I thank you for that. This truly is an interesting subject and I have now found myself wanting more. I actually found a couple books I must have bought years ago. They’re not as extensive as what you’re discussing but look to be a jumping off point to get me started. Then maybe one day we can try this again without me excessively scratching my head and drooling all over myself.:confused5:

Greg